Are you a one nation conservative?

They need to look in the mirror and remember who they really are. Then they should ask themselves whether this person is someone who shares Johnson's values. Then they should take a deep breath and go into the House of Commons and act with their conscience without concerning themselves about losing the Conservative Whip or their seats or their ministerial positions.

Yes but do they have a conscience? They back Austerity •4,200,000 children in poverty
•13,000 homeless veterans
•350,000 children in destitution
•120,000 austerity linked dead
•1,583,668 Foodbank parcels
•131,000 homeless children

The new right came in with Thatcher and has been here since.

The Tories don't care about the people just themselves and the establishment the wealthy big business. So need getting rid of.

Ah, a Corbyn fan, I knew there must be one somewhere.

Tory moderates, should, (just like PLP moderates should) vote with their consciences.The question is though, will they?
The Conservative Party has moved to the right and the LP has moved to the left, which leaves the moderates from each in the middle and rather worried.

Left of what excellent polices are all I'm worried about. Not right or left.

You're right, lemongrove (which makes a change for me to say, as usually I disagree strongly with your political views ), they should all vote with their consciences instead of sticking with the party lines. Then we might be able to get away from the dire influence of the extremists on both sides.

In response to the OP's question, I'm not sure that saving either the Tory party or the Labour party is possible now.

Great speech by John Major- appealing for calm and dignity in the Conservative Party:

www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/973858732948654/

....and I agree with you whenIwasyourage ....for a change? Not sure about that as I hadn’t noticed what your political views were before now.

Ah yes John Major.... the man who promoted back to basics family values but had an affair with edwina currie. The man who prorogued parliament to suit his own purpose but called Boris on doing the same!

Can’t believe intelligent folks take hypocrites so seriously.

Most of my family were (parents, grandparents, aunts & uncles etc). I've got huge respect for Ken Clarke, John Major etc. Sarah Wollaston (I know she's in the LibDems now) was a close friend's MP and I've met her at a local church fete when she was still Tory. I liked her enormously.

There was a rabidly anti-Semitic great-aunt who was in the BUF known as Mad Molly by her family. She died in the 1960s and was completely unmourned because she was so vicious.
She never got invited to family weddings or anything, even out of pity or duty because she'd turn family events into a chance to rant about conspiracies headed by a 'World Cabal of Jews'.
I only came across her once, when I was a child, and she terrified me because she was shouting at my mother on Regent Street outside Dickins & Jones (we'd gone to the sales) calling her a race traitor when she saw her because one of her best friends at school was Jewish. As a direct result extremists are always people I've shunned, whether SWP or BNP.
I'm an archetypal floating voter. I've voted Green in the European elections, mainly because my maternal GM and GF were really worried about the environment and I knew because of the PR system that vote would count. My GF took me to the local river (quite small tributary) and showed me all the detergent foam on it and how all the trout had gone.
When there have been elections for MPs & local councillors on the same day I've often voted across the spectrum according to who's standing and their individual stance on various issues. There's one local Labour councillor I've always voted for.

LG I wonder which way your great-aunt would have voted if she'd been around in 2016?

Amber Rudd today accused Boris Johnson of deploying aggressive language that “does incite violence”.

In an exclusive interview with the Evening Standard, the former Cabinet minister condemned as “immoral” some Downing Street tactics in the Brexit debate and criticised a “casual approach to the safety of MPs and their staff”.

Ms Rudd, who quit Mr Johnson’s government after the Tory whip was withdrawn from 21 rebel MPs , revealed she may stand as an Independent Conservative candidate in a London constituency at the coming general election.

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/amber-rudd-hits-out-at-boris-johnson-as-she-accuses-pm-of-using-language-that-incites-violence-a4248261.html

What is Nicky waiting for, how can she even consider staying???

varian
I have no idea. I suspect any party she would have liked is banned. Perhaps she would have emigrated.

Actually she'd probably be on twitter making threats to MPs