Considering voting Labour?

Grany "No only the top five percent to pay fair taxes"

Now that really is a "jealousy tax"

Kittylester: "remember the awful mess made last time a truly left wing labour government were in power!"

No I don't. The last truly left wing govt was 1945, which got us going after a terrible war. Wilson did the next best.
The 2008 global meltdown was caused by US bankers, and New Labour was in power. Even so, they were beginning to deal with it, when we had a GE and Cameron started the austerity binge, which has almost destroyed the Welfare State I have lived with all my life.

Grany The majority of "the rich" do pay their taxes, it should be down to HMRC to come down on the tax avoiders/evaders (one is illegal and one is legal but morally wrong).

The higher the "high tax rate" is the less tax collected as these are the individuals who will move their money to Monaco, Singapore etc.

It's the next tier down of tax payers that will suffer, we already pay more than the average. Have to pay tax "upfront" and then HMRC takes it's time once tax returns are submitted to return the overpayments. Whilst any under payment is "invoiced" immediately.

No only the top five per cent to pay fair taxes

That is not the way to canvas for votes Whitewave ,

All businesses must be profitable or they cease to exist.

So which tier /company size are you talking about gg13

WWMK2, If you had read my post correctly I said Labour will come for the next level of tax payers, i.e. not the super rich but those who are lucky enough to "be profitable" and make a profit nowhere did I mention "small businesses".

It's the politics of helping the many the poor caused by Tory austerity. With the very richest paying their fair share what is envious about that?

I would argue that Labour stands for the politics of fairness

Lazy posting repeating a mantra dreamt up by the Tories and repeated ad nauseous.

Unless you can supply evidence of your assertion annie I will assume it is an opinion only, and therefore can be ignored.

gg13

I’ve just read your post
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Can you supply some evidence of your assertion that Labour is going to tax the small business much more.

PS Ratcliffe is moving out regardless of the government. So that thesis doesn’t hold up I’m afraid.

This far left Labour Party is definitely the politics of envy.

oopsminty

I think your post is a bit if a generalisation tbh.

Labour as do I and millions of other people in the U.K. think that everyone should pay their tax that is due.

Right amount at the right time.

I suspect that is exactly what 99% of GN posters do.

But some of those vastly wealthy people, whose wealth has been generated in the U.K. don’t either pay the right amount or at the right time.

That isn’t fair. They clearly have a stake in the U.K. with all the benefits of things like the rule of law, protection by the security services, good infrastructure etc, but are not willing to pay the correct tax.

I can give you one example.

Jim Ratcliffe.

The third-richest person in the U.K. whose wealth has been made from petrochemicals.

His company is responsible for one third of the industrial greenhouse gas emissions in Scotland.

He is exploring the possibility of fracking.

He is in the process of moving to Monaco, to avoid paying tax in the U.K.

Tax which could be used to limit the damage caused by his companies greenhouse emissions.

We know that children’s lung capacities who are growing up in cities are being severely limited by greenhouse emissions.

This isn’t right.

The top 1% who pay 27% of all taxes collected in the U.K. will just up and move their money elsewhere, which will cause job losses.

Then Labour will come for the next tier of tax payers, those who have worked their fingers to the bone, building up businesses, local employers, shop keepers in your High Street who are making a profitable living and employing local people, giving back to the communities they live in.

Labour Party is definitely the politics of envy.

opsminty, Gordon Brown and Tony Blaire were not true Labour leaders. What the Labour Party has now is Labour in it's true traditions and belief.

Well Oops if this lot get in again and sell of the NHS I hope your children and grandchildren have private health insurance or are extremely healthy.

I'm not actually claiming that I want 'this lot' back in again.

It's just my point of view.

With regard to the NHS, I don't believe that it will be sold off.

However, as an ex NHS worker I would love to see some changes implemented.

Oh, I forgot the Tories are also pledging tax cuts on top of all the huge spending plans.

Don't forget what Gordon Brown did. Abolishing the 10p tax rate was hardly beneficial to the wealthy.

Sell off!

Well Oops if this lot get in again and sell of the NHS I hope your children and grandchildren have private health insurance or are extremely healthy.

Yes they are fantastic polices. Thank you Whitewavemark2 and just what is needed right now.

Their manifesto polices are fully costed. Bring it on!

I will vote for Corbyn Labour government.

See you didn’t answer my question Urm just ranted on playing a blame game. Nice!

Oh, I forgot the Tories are also pledging tax cuts on top of all the huge spending plans.

That will only be for the already wealthy of course.

But mostly think of our children and grandchildren and gr grandchildren. It's their future.

That is exactly what I'm doing, Ginny.

And that's why I could never vote for Corbyn

Poor mini Trump definitely had the legs swept from under him by the Orange Man.

This will be really useful Whitewave. Now to go off and see the threads about the other parties. So far all I know about the Liberals is they will stop Brexit and the Tories 'promises' have yet to have truth unravelled from fiction. Who knew that 40 actually means six when applied to hospital building?

Tony Blair went to war illegally.

I can remember the three day weeks, postal strikes, power cuts and rubbish not being collected when I was a teenager, all under a Labour Government.