Considering voting Labour?

Sorry Grany - can't get past the FT paywall

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@OwenJones84

This is big. 163 economists and academics have backed Labour's spending plans in that well known Trotskyist rag - the Financial Times. ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae….

Labour's favourite drink

I am in favour of most of the LP policies and those aspects that I don't favour I would go along with to gain the rest. However I cannot vote for any candidate that supports the Corbyn clique. That could leave me with a problem if my stance would enable a Tory, brexiteer or more right wing candidate to be elected.

Fortunately in the constituency that I live a vote for other than the LD candidate is to increase the Tory majority. So I will like I have for 40 years vote tactically inspire of my subscription being paid in another direction.

Do you think a woman who wears a scarf because she has had chemo for cancer- has less right to wear one than a Muslim woman, then?

fully aware of this- my point is, what on earth has her wig got to do with anything. Vile and irrelevant comment.

That’s strange....I answered Newnanny’s post, and now her post has vanished.

jura how do you know that Abbott has hairloss? She has worn a wig for a long time ( looks like a wig anyway) but I had never seen it falling off before.
Jewish ladies who wear wigs wear them as one might wear a hat, it’s part of their religion to cover their true hair.

newnanny I think McDonnell has now dropped that idea.

For example Labour’s manifesto commits to scrapping marriage allowance, a policy introduced in 2015 which gives a tax break to couples with a combined income of under £62,500.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/21/whats-in-the-labour-party-manifesto

Would you do the same about a Jewish woman's wig?

I'm not saying it's not true, lemon. I'm saying that I want to see the source of it in the Labour documents. So far the only source I have is Marr's say so.

lemongrove ''On tv the other night, her wig appeared to be slipping off her head backwards'' how nasty, vile and despicable of you to mock someone who has serious health issues which caused hairloss nasty.

If it wasn’t true, then Angela Raynor would have denied it.
She didn’t.

Can anyone see that Ooeyisit? It would be laughable.
On tv the other night, her wig appeared to be slipping off her head backwards and she was talking to ( or rather at) the interviewer, who was actually interviewing somebody else!

Afraid I’m out too . Spend spend spend and this young ones voting him in will pick up the tab in 10 years time . Can’t see Diane as Home Secretary can you ?

But why shouldn't any non-taxpayer pass their allowance to someone else? It's an anomaly. It needs to go. After all two people earning quite low salaries just above the tax threshhold will both pay tax. Whereas with this allowance one highly paid person can have two tax allowances simply because their partner is low paid.

Andrew Marr clearly stated that the Labour Party are going to abolish this and I don’t think he would have said this if it wasn’t true.

I am trying very hard to find out where this is stated in the Labour Manifesto, Jane43, or it's paper on funding it. Andrew Marr might have said it, but where is stated in those documents?

Trisher I say again there is no element of claiming extra just giving some of your unused earnings allowance to your partner. Yes it should be applied to those living together and this may come eventually. The term ‘choosing not to work’ is a generalisation and not true because the marriage allowance can apply to working people on a low income and not paying tax. It doesn’t apply to retirees like us and some partners who do not work because they have low earning potential thus it isn’t economically viable to work and pay for child care. It also applies to some cases like my daughter-in-law who was self employed and struggling to make her business pay her a fair income.

But not available for co-habitees. Or for anyone else sharing a home. After all why should 2 people be able to claim extra just because one of them chooses not to work?

Trisher the marriage allowance facility is available to those in a civil partnership too.

We have to hope not ( a future Labour Leader)?

For those of you who think that the marriage allowance is an extra allowance for married couples this is not the case. I believe there might be something like this for the very elderly and there used to be a married man’s tax allowance but this was abolished some time ago. Some of you have said that the marriage allowance is unfair and an anomaly but it is nothing extra in the way of a tax allowance it is the facility for a non tax payer to pass on £1500 of their earnings allowance to their married partner. I do this because my income is much less than the earnings allowance so I can REDUCE my earnings allowance by £1500 and it is added to the earnings allowance of my husband reducing his tax liability by £250 a year. We have a total earnings allowance of £25000 for the two of us and after the marriage allowance is applied we still have a total earnings allowance of £25000, £11000 for me and £14000 for my husband instead of £12500 each.

Andrew Marr clearly stated that the Labour Party are going to abolish this and I don’t think he would have said this if it wasn’t true. I don’t know what their rationale is for abolishing it because Angela Rayner didn’t address the question at all. She was introduced by Andrew Marr as a possible future Labour leader!

Good point about nationalisation, Tooting.

There will be chaos. Law suits. p
Pensions. what about the shares that the staff own? At what price will they be paid out?

You think Brexit is complicated

Renationalisation will be a whole different ball game

Naivety is rife amongst your average Labour voter

And I can't find anything in the Labour manifesto documents about abolishing the marriage allowance.

All I found was this towards the end:

Start
Marriage Allowance
In their October 2019 ‘Estimated cost of non-structural tax reliefs’ HMRC forecast £535m of
Marriage Allowance to be claimed under the system which allows “the transfer of 10% of the tax
free personal allowance between couples who are married or in civil partnerships”. Uplifted to
account for forecast earnings growth.

End

Abolition must have been mentioned somewhere earlier.

Can someone help me out here?

A no from me.