Considering voting Tory?

opal What about somebody who has done everything in a sensible and responsible way, but is hit by circumstances beyond his or her control? Somebody who has always paid taxes and never wasted money on alcohol and cigarettes? I know somebody like that very well. Do you think it's fair that a person like that should have to live on inadequate benefits?

baggs???

GGMK3, what is the source of those quoted words of Johnson's, please? I'd like to follow it up.

WWMK2 said: Surely, surely - if there is a single bit of fairness someone like him will never become PM

Um... haven't you noticed? Someone very like him is the PM.

Except that they will not exist under a Johnson government.

So gg13 what would you do?

As I have said previously there was nothing wrong with the Surestart centres.

Educate children in senior school about contraception and the fact that a baby is yours for life and it brings responsibilities both for Mother and Father.

Basically bringing numerous children into this world which you are unable to afford or ill equipped to rear is not a very good lifestyle choice in 2019.

Opal, in regard to your post @23:50 yesterday, What a nonsensical Rant!

Reinstate Sure Start Centres and fund them properly.

Her children would undoubtedly benefit from decent nursery care and pre-school learning. Mother would be given the opportunity to learn parenting skills like good nutrition, parenting a child, together with the education on limiting your family etc.

But at the very least those children being brought up in poverty would be given the opportunity to eat nutritious meals during the day and pre-school learning which would place them in a good place on entering primary years.

Now gg13 what would you do?

WWMK2 what would you suggest?

opal

What would you do then, to the mother who is constantly pregnant?

Only people who don't like disabled/poor/Libraries/the NHS/education for all/ people vote Tory."

I vote Tory and I sympathise with the genuinely disabled and the poor, and fully support that their benefits should provide them with an adequate standard of living and social care. I occasionally use the library, I fundamentally support the NHS and its values, I believe in good quality education for all. What I don't like are lazy scammers who claim to be disabled and claim benefits, and are in fact perfectly fit to work. What I don't| like are scammers who claim to be poor and unable to feed their kids, but find money for cigarettes and drugs. What I don't like are young mothers who are not in a stable relationship who have babies simply to get a council flat and benefits. And please don't deny they are out there, there was one on our local TV news channel this week, having just had her SIXTH child, and no father on the scene. My son and his wife are having their second child, they are not planning any more as they don't believe they will be able to afford it. He works full-time, pays all his taxes, is paying off a student loan, has a mortgage, his wife works 25 hours per week, they have to pay for child care for two days per week for their little boy. Their taxes equate to what the above mother receives in benefits. Now tell me that that is fair - that my son and his wife have done everything in a sensible and responsible way, have paid their own way, have never claimed anything except child benefit, pay all their bills, pay all their taxes without help, and yet all of these bloody do-gooders think that they should also pay to support a woman who has never worked a day, been pretty much constantly pregnant since the age of 16, and expects the State to keep her and her kids. On what planet is that fair??? If it wasn't for tax payers like my family, there wouldn't be a bloody welfare state!
But according to GGMK3, I and people like me are "scum of the earth". Wonder if you'd say that to my face GGMK3 or do you just insult people from a distance?

According to the ever tolerant GGM3....anyone voting for the Conservatives is ‘the scum of the earth’!!
Post at 15.24.09

A new low for GN.Though not surprising.

Surely, surely - if there is a single bit of fairness someone like him will never become PM

I couldn't believe this was true - but sadly, it was.

Probably his supporters in the Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph and Sun. He does get a lot of help from the billionaire tax exiles who own most of our national newspapers.

I intend to vote for Boris because the last thing I want for my country is a Marxist and Trotskyite ie Jeremy Corbin and John McDonnell. And it is John McDonnell who is the power behind the throne.

Who spun you that line. Jackass Johnson the louche liar?

Boris Johnson has now refused to do interviews with the BBC & ITV, refused to turn up to tv debates or attend hustings in his local seat.

No other PM in modern times has ever put so much effort into avoiding scrutiny.

We voters just have to ask ourselves, what is he hiding?

I am sorry the link above did not work. It was a warning, by Professor Dougan of Liverpool University, THE most erudite expert on international trade negotiations - that 'getting Brexit done' is nonsense- and that it will take years and years of uncertainty and huge difficulties.

Only people who don't like disabled/poor/Libraries/the NHS/education for all/ people vote Tory

???

I intend to vote for Boris because the last thing I want for my country is a Marxist and Trotskyite ie Jeremy Corbin and John McDonnell. And it is John McDonnell who is the power behind the throne.

I see the Rye and Hastings Tory candidate is of the opinion that

“People with learning difficulties should be paid less because they don’t understand about money”

What charmers these Tories are

Tommy Robinson is endorsing Boris Johnson's Conservatives and former Conservative leader Sir John Major is not

It sort of tells you all you need to know.

Don’t forget anyone living in Uxbridge that Johnson was voted in because he promised that he would never agree to a third runway. He would “lie down in front of the bulldozers”

Johnson lied.

Good bedfellow, if you like that sort of thing

Tommy Robinson is endorsing Boris Johnson's Conservatives and former Conservative leader Sir John Major is not

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