Tory election not going well is it?

Thanks Maw funny and true

To maintain a degree of even-handedness, my contribution is this!

No question and answer sessions at many of his meetings either.

I don't blame him for that could get rather embarrassing. ??

It looks as if Johnson is as afraid of meeting, and particularly addressing, real people in just the same way May was. Rooms full of the press who moderate their articles in his direction is probably his best bet I suppose.

The Tory candidate for North Norfolk has stood down because of comments he made about how women could avoid being raped ( note he did not comment about how men should stop raping women ). So how come anyone ever thought it was fine to select him in the first place? Given the Alun Cairns situation as well, there’s a sort of pattern developing isn’t there?

Oh, and do tell us how many tory MPs have resigned because they don't like where Johnson is taking the party..

That’ll be the ex Labour MP who now works for the Tories will it? And remind me how many Tory MPs have left or have been shown the door recently?

Yes, Salsa. Let's not mention Diane Abbott. There's been a whole separate thread on her if you want to join in the bitchfest.

Labour are doing fantastically well, though . One MP resigned today, and another is advising people to follow Boris Johnson. And let's not mention Diane Abbott

How did I know that when I read the title to this thread that it would be you WWM2!

Apparently Ian Austin was also an entrenched opponent of Ed Milliband and criticised the Labour leadership at that time for not cracking down on migrants. His rhetoric at that point was compared by senior people in the Labour party to that of the BNP. It sounds to me as if his criticism is actually a feather in Corbyn's cap and the man will be far more at hope in today's far-right Tory party. I imagine he will crawl back under the stone he has previously been under shortly.

Thanks Maizie- great link.

Would be interested to know, for the Johnson supporters here, do they support his undemocratic and unconstitutional refusal to publish the Russina interference report, and if so, how they can justify it.

BBC reality check of Johnson's election launch speech yesterday:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50317404

I don't think that one ex-Labour MP telling people to vote tory is quite as damaging over all as the constant lies and gaffes coming from the tories.

And now we have a Liberal candidate in Cornwall apologising for appalling jokes about dyslexia and benefit claimants .....what is it - a race to the bottom?

Not going well for Labour now is it? One of their own MPs, Ian Austin, is telling people to vote Tory! That's how bad Corbyn is!!!

It appears that the Indian government is openly helping Johnson

t.co/5xR0BlsOtt?amp=1

Sounds like a good plan Monica.

I am implementing a personal purdah system. I am watching no political debates or listening to any media interviews until after the elections. I will depend on newspaper articles and online material, whether I am more than capable of judging whether the information is valid or not.

I can then read things at leisure, consider them, perhaps go back and re read sections or all of the articles. place one article against another and reach a reasoned and considered conclusion.

Hear hear jo1book ??

Corbyn is the basic problem. If Labour chose to support far left socialism, they will pay a price. I think the best thing for Labour (a party I sympathise with although rarely support) is to lose this election; lose Corbyn and Momentum and regain the respect of more voters.

Agree * Maizie* - be very clear what you’re voting for if you vote for <vague wave of hand> Brexit under a very right wing Govt. What follows will shape so many aspects of our lives - I believe in social justice and don’t trust Boris et al to deliver that.

There are actually more important things at issue than Brexit, jolbrook. Like punitive 'social welfare', NHS falling apart, cuts to police & education, climate change etc.

Johnson's 'deal' (which is only the Withdrawal Agreement, lots more to come after that) is not a good deal for the UK and, with only 11 months left in which to negotiate an FTA (impossible say the trade experts), the likelihood is that we'll end up with 'no deal' after all. Which will be an economic disaster for the UK or what's left of it).

People will vote for Johnson (warts and all) because the prospect of Corbyn is frightening and the LD's look a wet bunch. I was a remainder but will go along with Johnson's deal; we need to move on.

i wouldnt vote for that bunch of clowns .uk/brexit all the way...