Do you feel politically homeless?

Difficult to know who to vote for, very much politically homeless, seems to have got far worse since covid.

Doodlebug I did the same. nearly tore into someone for calling (Starmer) anti Semitic them realised it was before his time
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Meaning? Blossoming?

Yes, Doodledog, I had to scroll back a few pages to find this thread. I did, instead of starting a new one, because as said in the post above, it is even more true now than ever.

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I wondered why people were going on about Corbyn, and then realised that this thread was started in 2019.

Looking at other threads on the LP divisions- reminded me of this thread. And the answer is,

yes, more than ever- and I can't see any way forwards with this dreaded FPTP system. Really depressing.

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Only vote for the independent if she/he stands a chance of making sure a Tory does not get in!!!!

Lucky I tend to agree. I am currently a Left leaning Green with LibDem tendencies who will be voting for an Independent candidate.

I am always puzzled as to how anyone can have a political "home." It just seems utterly mindless to me to buy into a complete political stance or manifesto - how can you subscribe to all of it?

Someone who recently left the Tories said he was sad to leave the "party he loves". - How can you love a party? Just barmy in my book.

I am swithering and debating with myself daily, but I shall cast my vote tactically to get rid of the Tories and Brexit. If this means Corbyn ( no fan) I will accept it, and I consider this no worse than the many on here who support the moral wilderness that is Johnson just to get Brexit. For me, it is about the end result, and if I have to hold my nose and vote Labour, then so be it. Also, if a Labour administration is a disaster, we, the electorate, have the option to kick them out after five years; we do not have this option with the ERG Tory administration taking us out of the EU.

Thank you, varian, for providing solid, unbiased evidence, free of the red herring of personality politics, to help guide waverers' voting choices. A more trustworthy and unbiased source is hard to imagine.

UK economic outlook in four Brexit scenarios according to the highly respected Institute for Fiscal Studies. This is not party-political spin, but the best informed prediction of various scenarios. No-one should feel politically homeless after seeing this. Everyone who cares at all about our country's future should vote for the candidate in their constituency who is most likely to stop brexit.

I am in a bit of a political wilderness at the moment too. I can't see any benefit in having any of the parties' leaders as PM. I wouldn't feel reassured with any of them in the role.

However, I think as a whole, we have a tendency to fail to separate the party leaders from the party. We are not voting for the Prime Minister, but for the party we want to govern.

The politicians won't be in place forever, but the parties (mostly) will go on, so it's the party politics that we should be voting for, and not the person who will live in 10 Downing Street.

There are bits of each party's policies I like, but none of them have enough bits I like to make me want to vote for them.

I am in a real dilemma over where to place my X on 12th December. (That said, living in a Conservative stronghold, albeit one with a very good MP, it won't make a jot of difference which way I vote.)

Painting yes, yes and again yes.
Someone with integrity at last in JC. He is NOT a racist. He's spent his life fighting it. He encompasses the values I hold dear. I don't agree with everything he says or does, but it's like someone said about bus journeys: You have to get from A to B so you don't wait at the bus stop for the non existent bus to take you to your door, you get the bus which brings you closest.
As far as 'leadership' is concerned - no amazing soundbites apart from the Labour one about the many not the few; no glib rehearsed statements, no bullshit and no lies. If you want that kind of leader, look the other way. To paraphrase his own words - he wasn't born to rule and seeks power to share it and to lead with compassion.
If he doesn't win the election (and the media and Tory party have done a great hatchet job on him constantly which says a lot) I foresee he'll go back to the back benches and campaign as he's always done. No corporate speeches charging big bucks per talk, no slick jobs editing or managing newspapers. He just wants to see real change and better lives for ordinary people.
If you loathe all he stands for you'll be cynical about this but if everyone else is having their say, then that's mine, for what it's worth.

I have always favoured PR and so have always voted Liberal then Lib Dem as a matter of principle, assisted by the fact that I have never lived in a marginal constituency

However, it is now getting marginal, and the Labour candidate is far more impressive than tbe Conservative. Against that, the Labour leader is a worse option than the despicable charlatan who leads the Tories. So I shall stick to my principles.

Meant to say, young people should be taught this and encouraged to participate by voting

I really don't think, Elainel, that you can blame 9 years of needless tory austerity and the great EU Referendum cock-up on all our MPS. There are plenty who genuinely want to contribute to improving people's lives and making the UK a fair and effective place to live. They just need sorting from the dross...

And our young people need to be taught how our democracy works and how to look critically at what candidates say.

And learn some basic economics...

I think the erosion of public trust in our politicians will have repercussions for many years to come. What is particularly sad is that there are very many, particularly back bench, MPs who genuinely went into politics to be a force for good. There are also many cross party groups that work cohesively and well. Unfortunately, to paraphrase a well known saying, there are some whose focus is on betterment for the few rather than working for the many!

I feel very sceptical about trusting any of them now given all the lies about NHS getting all this money from Brexit plastered on buses and all the nasty vindictive comments aimed at each other and worse that female MPs are resigning because of abuse they receive online and other places. This whole Brexit affair has caused so much ill feeling and set people against each other. And now apparently we will be borrowing vast amounts for new hospitals (that's a joke in Edinburgh where the new Sick Children's is not fit for purpose and nurses ready to move had to stay in condemned buildings with no heating and a roof falling in and now services will be suspended as there is no area to perform their care), new surgeries - no-one wants to be a GP with all the crap they have to put up with (not the patients - other crap), new schools - less people wanting to be teachers. Sorry just having a rant, just watched question time from Glasgow and no-one seems capable of giving a clear understandable answer! Sad also that today on news all broadcasts featured young people who think everything prospective MPs say is lies - and sadly they are correct!

Unfortunately, NotTooOld, he's not a good PM, either.

But I don't think we found out about those things prior to voting for them, did we?

I think we should avoid calling BJ 'an adulterer and a liar'. So he may be but if I remember my history lessons correctly many former PMs have fallen into that, or similar, categories and it didn't necessarily make them bad PMs.