Election promises- are they getting desperate?

All of GNs have access to broadband or mobile data, they wouldn't be here if they hadn't. I'm currently trying to help two people who are each socially isolated because they have no access to the internet. Both individuals are impoverished and housebound. I don't have equipment that I can lend them (although I may see what I can do) but the biggest hurdle for me is they have no access to the internet (they can't even make claims without an email address). I would say that access to the internet should be a classed as a utility in the same way that access to electricity and water is. It doesn't have to be ultra fast, suitable for streaming 8K videos, but it is no longer a luxury. It seems to me that some posters are not considering the cost for the most disadvantaged to access something they take for granted.

However, I don't support Labour's plans to nationalise the industry, they have no idea what the technical challenges are and lack the insight to meet them.

Don't forget Corbyn's free broadband all.

It's almost insulting that there's been barely a mention about WASPI Women - just a handful of vaguely mumbled asides about "doing something" - as if they're scared of being heard!

Same old story, innit? It's only women - they'll get fed-up and do something useful like looking after elderly parents and grandchildren......

sadly we can see through all their lies and so called promises, all are muppets, just picking the right muppet for the job, they will screw us over like they always do

Forget flakey promises on broadband, it won’t happen, either because the LP will not win this election ( likely) or if they did manage a minority gov propped up by the Scot Nats, it would be pushed into the long grass and forgotten about.Soon, there would be another GE and that’s the last you will hear of it.

Batteries are being developed using several different technologies it does not have to be lithium, they have the potential to extend the range of a car to 1000 miles between charges.
All these batteries can be recycled, at present it is not economic but that can be said of much recycling, it’s only legislation and taxation that makes it happen. So it will be with batteries in the future.
We do need to travel less, many of the journey we make are “because we can”.

We are now seeing the effects of the 'open door' policy of the last Labour government. The country's infra-structure was not equipped to cope with the extra population.

Well, blow me down! And what have the tories been doing for the past 10 years?

'goo' or even 'go'

I understood that batteries use a particular mineral resource of which there is a finite supply and that future demand for electric vehicles will rapidly exhaust the supply. Then what happens?

We can't goo on and on expecting increasing car use, surely?

Don’t care about broadband or railways I want my pension having to wait an extra 6 years is not fair for us 50s women .

Hydrogen - forget it. It needs electricity to generate it then compress and cool it into heavy tanks at 5000psi, the energy density of liquid hydrogen is 1/4 of petrol. Fuel cells are not much more efficient than Diesel engines

Far more efficient to charge batteries, that is the current government plan, big infrastructure upgrades needed and better battery technology, that will happen over the next 20 yrs

Fast broadband can very helpfully be used for medical purposes and therefore reduce pressure on health services and also travel to surgeries and hospitals. I notice Labour's ads on this policy is centred on older people for once, all espousing the benefits of good broadband. Rural living, poor mobility, health problems, distance from family, lack of public transport and many other other aspects of life can be improved with good broadband, to say nothing of business efficiency.
Just to take one issue for business, we could all work from home or from local smaller offices with full connectivity which would reduce travel, pollution, time spent on work stuff, less stress, less pressure on our roads and so much more.

You're right,polnan....it isn't just that the NHS needs more money..it needs a complete overhaul.
We are now seeing the effects of the 'open door' policy of the last Labour government. The country's infra-structure was not equipped to cope with the extra population. The education system as well as the health service is suffering. Bringing more staff from overseas will just compound the problem, we're going round in circles!

They shouldn’t call them promises. They should call them sprats..................and we are the mackerel they are all hoping to reel in with their fishy lies.

But even free public transport is no good if it doesn't go where you want it and people now want to go to so many places for so many reasons.

I live in a large village. The residents in the village all probably work within 50 miles of the village, but even if they work in local towns, their jobs will not be in the town centres, they will be in industrial and commercial parks scattered all round the periphery of these towns and it is unlikely that viable bus services can be run from every village and town within even 10 miles to every single employment area - or have buses from all these to get to the out of town supermarkets at lunch time or on the way home, still less get to the new medical centre, which is right on the edge of the town, or even to the station.

A straight forward example. DD has a 35 minute drive to work. When her car was out of action for two days she went by public transport. A walk to the station a wait for the 2 an hour trains to the relevant town and a shuttle bus to the science park she works in 10 miles away. The shuttle bus only runs between 7.30 and 9.00 in the morning and 4.00 and 5.30 in the evening, any other time the only alternative is a taxi. This journey on public transport takes 2 hours each way. Alright for a day or two, but even if she could travel for free, why spend 4 hours a day travelling when private transport cuts this down to just over 1 hour?

Oh I think Labour promises will happen and be very costly to us all - if Corbyn has majority, that is unlikely. Much more likely he may head a hung parliament and the plans will get watered down considerably.

I’m weighing up what is likely to happen, a credible Labour leader would have a good chance of gaining 80 plus seats and a majority, as it is the best likely outcome is a wretched hung parliament with LD and SNP holding the balance. How long that government would last is very questionable.

The Tories need to win just 9 seats to have a majority, maybe they will do that, maybe it will be more of the same Tory hung parliament.

I felt sorry for all the students who believed that university fees would be @bolished by Labour before the last election. And then found it was only an aspiration!

Promising jam tomorrow (whichever side is doing it) is the easy bit.....

Thanks MaizieD wow praise indeed from you - I’m blushing!
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I agree OP

some people might even believe the promises
If you were between 18 & 25? didn't have a clue about politics or how the world works, wouldn't you?

to my mind, if a party has been in power 10 years if they can't look around them & say 'look what a good job we've done of the NHS/Schools/police' then they really don't deserve your vote next time round, whatever they promise.

But there has been plenty of money when it comes to the DUP/Boris's Brexit campaign/well heeled people's tax cuts

They'll be promising wigs for all bald men next week.

@Davidhs - how do you know that Labours promises aren't going to happen? Got a crystal ball have you? Give them a chance to actually show what they can do instead of dismissing it. If anyone is wondering where the money is coming from then you will need to read their manifesto (which will be fully costed). Crikey - take a long look at what we have had for the last 9 years (austerity was a political choice - not a necessity) and think about what is already happening to OUR NHS.

What worries me is that some people might even believe the promises and vote accordingly. Would not trust any of them nowadays.

Do you know, Ug, your post at 11.15 actually makes sense!