But he is a fence sitter jura and he cannot continue as he has - witnessing anti-semitism himself, seeing it in action, doing nothing then having a friendly chat with the perpetrator seconds later.
Trying to get through prolonged/complicated grief
Just watched Jeremy being interviewed by Andrew Neil. He gave him a really hard time and was very rude to him. However Jeremy stood his ground and didn't get rattled under what amounted to real provocation and bullying. He answered all the questions put to him in a calm and polite manner. If Neil is interviewing all the leaders it will be interesting to see if he treats them all in this atrocious manner. He made Piers Morgan look like a pussy cat!
But he is a fence sitter jura and he cannot continue as he has - witnessing anti-semitism himself, seeing it in action, doing nothing then having a friendly chat with the perpetrator seconds later.
he was put in a situation where he was damned if he did (apologise) and damned if he didn't. For a large part of the interview. Yes, I'd personally would like Keir Starmer to take over asap- but nothing, nothing, can be as bad and as destructive as Johnson and his No Deal (because that is what ERG want, and the ones pulling the strings, Trump, Putin ... and more).
I agree he is not a great leader, not a great speaker- but a racist and an antisemite, he is NOT.
So right Callistemon. The rich can get their money out of the Country if Labour win.
But to return to topic. Ok. Neil can be a hard questioner, but if Corbyn can't stand up to him how on earth can he be expected to run the Country and deal with World Affairs. The poor man has "Failure" written all over him. I find him very embarrassing.
how many ordinary people have dividend income
Naïve question 
Many, I suspect, including those on barely more than a state pension.
Of course, many people when they were working, decided to invest any savings into the public utilities sales. But they needn't worry about paying more in dividends from income on those shares because they will be seized back, at a pittance, by a Labour Government under the re-nationalisation schemes.
Building societies gave shares to customers, banks gave them to people when they took over building societies etc.
Invested pension funds of course, were hit by Gordon Brown and now will be slammed if Labour get in this time.
These proposals don't just hit the very rich and probably won't as they can move their money around with impunity.
When all the big earners have left the country to live in Monaco or wherever if Labour get in, who will be left funding everything? I think it will whittle down the line to Joe Public. I seem to remember pop stars, actors and celebrities did that when Labour did similar back in the 60’s/70)s.
The chief Rabbi has been backed by other religious leaders now jura.
Some of the attacks on him by Corbyn supporters have been despicable, let's hope that Gransnet does not follow down that route. It's a pity that this subject of anti-semitism by certain members of the Labour Party today cannot be open for discussion without accusations about Israel and Zionism.
Corbyn, as usual, sits on the fence. Is that a sign of weakness?
I am assuming Neill will apply the same questioning technique to the next leaders he interviews.
But it's such a lie for Labour to pretend their tax hikes won't hit the pockets of ordinary people.
Can you explain why you think this, sarahcyn? The only increase in taxation proposed for 'ordinary people' is in the £80,000 + bracket
From the manifesto:
^We’ll ask those who earn more than £80,000 a year to
pay a little more income tax, while freezing National
Insurance and income tax rates for everyone else.^
Of course, there is the increase on the dividend tax; currently £2,000 is tax free then the rest is taxed at 10%, but how many 'ordinary people' have dividend income? And why should unearned income be taxed at a lower rate than earned income?
And there's corporation tax...
Just on a point of fact, Neil was never Editor of The Times but the Sunday Times. They are different titles.
Indeed they are. I was a faithful Sunday Times reader until Neil moved it over to the the Right all those many, many years ago. Didn't know then that I was a closet leftie...I just thought that rightwing views were nasty.
Andrew Neil is pretty tough with everyone he interviews.
What struck me was how pathetic Jeremy Corbyn seemed. And refusing to give straight answers.
He is not the Prime Minister that this country needs.
But, to be honest, I don't know who is!
WWM2
If that was the case with Lesley Perrin, then why on earth did Jeremy not clarify that in the interview at the time?
jolbook, I wouldn't count your chickens yet- for sure.
The constant hounding by the gutter press may well please the older folks who are pro Johnson, pro Tory and pro Brexit- but the sheer unfairness, clear manipulation from above (all the way up to Trump and Netanyahu I am pretty sure) - will make others rally for him. Certainly has that effect on me + OH.
It can't be pleasant being interviewed by Andrew Neil. But isn't that the point? He tears into Tory politicians too. The difference between him and other interviewers is that he is tough on left-wingers instead of fawning glutinously over them like Emily Maitlis.
Corbyn was skewered, no mistake, but it should come as no surprise to anyone that he will come for people of all incomes. I personally believe a bit of extra public funding wouldn't come amiss in a lot of areas of British life especially in the north and on our railway system, if system is the right word. But it's such a lie for Labour to pretend their tax hikes won't hit the pockets of ordinary people.
As for the anti-semitism issue - Corbyn just doesn't get it, because it's the water he swims in. He is a lifelong enemy of Israel and in that milieu he has happily tolerated all kinds of gross anti-semitism in his section of the Labour Party for decades. If he can say things like "they don't get irony" in public, who knows what he says in private? But because he believes he's anti-racist, he believes that he is the definition of anti-racism - "If I say it, it's not racist - because I said it"
I remember him as my local MP in the 1980s. He was a complete toad. He supported every terrorist cause going. He's a barely educated man who learned a simple set of political ideas a very long time ago and hasn't changed them despite all the appalling things that have been done in the name of communism. He's incredibly arrogant, incapable of listening empathetically to any point of view other than his own.
Just on a point of fact, Neil was never Editor of The Times but the Sunday Times. They are different titles.
jolbrook the election isn’t over yet
Last night Corbyn gave the keys of no. 10 to Johnson.
The Chief Rabbi is a good friend of Johnson's and ... Netanyahu.
All this demonisation of Corbyn and antesemitism is orchestrated and manipulated- from a great height.
I simply wanted to point out Mazie that not all dividend income is unearned, some work very hard to make a profit so they have a dividend to draw.
They may pay a personal reduced rate of tax on what they draw, but the business they own will have already paid Corporation tax which is currently around 20%.
The business owner is in effect paying tax twice, once on the profit made and again if more than £2000 is taken as a dividend.
Personally I really like an interviewer who persists in demanding a straight answer.
Too many politicians seem unable to give one - obviously terrified of committing themselves. They slither endlessly around the question like an oiled snake.
I do sometimes wonder whether they have to pass a test in oiled-snake-slithering before they're allowed anywhere near the media.
We might stand a better chance of seeing Johnson held to account if he was interviewed by someone who was not a lifelong supporter of the Tory Party.
It's still an avoidance method, smileless. "I worked hard to earn it" is no justification for paying a lower rate of tax. Many people on low pay 'work very hard' to earn their money. They don't get a lower rate of tax on the strength of it.
Anyway, even if the measure were to be implemented it is entirely possible that it could be mitigated for those who incur genuine risk in 'earning' their dividend. Tax rules aren't incredibly convoluted for no reason...
But most dividend income doesn't involve the recipient in the sort of risk you describe. It's not called 'playing the stock market' for nothing. It's a gambler's risk. There's no reason I can see for gambling to be rewarded more than graft...
Not all money drawn against dividends is unearned.
A small business owner who makes a profit, after paying Corporation Tax can draw a dividend against the shares they own in their business.
They've worked hard to make a profit, they pay tax on the profit they have made and then pay tax when they take some of that profit as a dividend.
It may at a reduced amount but tax is still having to be paid.
Why should he apologise ? Corbyn lied but didn’t apologise
Let’s hope Neil is big enough to apologise
Neil accused of lying in the Corbyn interview
Justin Schlosberg
@jrschlosberg
The 'sting' of tonight's @afneil interview with Corbyn was based on an apparent falsehood. Neil claimed Lesley Perrin got off with a 'formal warning' for sharing Holocaust-denying material. In fact she resigned her membership as soon as the party opened investigation 1/
What’s with all this talk of bullies??
Andrew Neil is a great political interviewer with a mind as sharp as a razor.He is trying to get answers to questions from the leaders of all the political parties.Didn’t anyone see the Sturgeon interview?He is just the same with them all, constant hard hitting questioning, and takes them to task if they waffle.
Sturgeon coped well ( sort of) and Corbyn didn’t, he looked
Offended, gulped and sniffed a lot and simply didn’t give straight answers to almost anything.
Neil will be just as ferocious to Johnson and Swinson.
Don’t like bullies have worked with them and found them intimidating. He probably was just doing his job time will tell. I thought Corbyn did ok.
Sorry for error. Posting late at night and misremembering.
But, why should unearned income pay less tax than income that has been worked for? Please don't try to tell me that that dividend income comes from 'investing in a company' and supporting industry and it's a reward for 'risk'... Because very few shares are sold for capitalization. Most of the market is just a big casino...
Neil chose a situation which not many people are likely to be in. Most taxpayers on modest incomes are working for every penny of those incomes and won't be paying any extra in income tax.
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