John McDonnell - fee paying scholar to Marxist

And let's not forget that Attlee went to Haileybury (a proper posh school) and Oxford and had middle class parents. Wow! What a hypocrite he was!

Ahhhh, but Brexit GracesGranMK3 - nothing else matters, it seems.

SirChenjin there are dead Conservative cats bouncing round this forum like we've never seen before.

Just what is it that they don't want us to talk about

Oh, that would be the Tory Party record - a fact.
Johnson's lies - a fact.
The people who have died because of a Tory decision to maintain austerity, otherwise known as privatisation by the back door - a fact.
The plan to make "Boris" the PM by selling this country off to the lowest bidder - a fact.

So let's not talk about schoolboy McDonnell but talk about John McDonnell who is preparing to do for this country what President Franklin D. Roosevelt did for his in the 1930s bringing it relief, reform and recovery from consequences of the last 10 years of Tory incompetency.

It was published in the Sun in June 2017. Maybe it's in the Tory "Dummies' Guide to Smearing the Opposition".

Rather than an LEA grant, I suspect it was a church grant. I knew somebody who was sent by his strict Catholic parents (factory worker and cleaner) to a Catholic boarding school, in the hope that he would become a priest. They didn't have to pay anything. Unfortunately, he fathered a child when he was 18, so the idea that he would be a priest had to be abandoned.

Are you saying this whole thread is a lie then? He was on an LEA grant.

Shame on the OP for not checking her facts. Was this perhaps lifted from a social media page funded by the Tories? It has their grubby little fingerprints written all over it.

At something

There is no penance that will suffice GracesGranMK3. We must - apparently - not get drawn into discussions regarding the really, really serious lies told by the incumbent PM and his band of rogues, thieves, liars and chancers, but instead we should throw our arms up in horror that something that didn’t actually happen decades ago.

It won't be mentioned if people stop spewing out tripe.

It's been on his Wiki profile since 15 June 2017, so presumably you're claiming he lied about his education before then. I'm just asking for some evidence. If you have it, fine.

a load of bigoted tripe
Is tripe going to mentioned on every thread?

I'm beginning to feel nauseous

Nope, it was far worse than that - his parents didn’t pay, they couldn’t afford it. Instead he got there on an LEA grant funded place at a time when this was not at all unusual.

So what penance can he do for a sin not committed by him, but but by his parents and the local authority. We're does this sort of thinking come from?

... not only loony lefties, but eaten alive by the green monster. Which is also, totally and utterly ridiculous in most cases.

Find it incredible that today, in the 21st C- so many people still think in strict and narrow 'class' lines. As if anyone with a social conscience, who believes in good health care and education for all, and in supporting those who hit hard times, one way ot the other- are loony lefties.

This is just ridiculous. The difference between NHS and private should have nothing to do with access to healthcare- but with a nicer room, a TV, WiFi and a choice of doctor/surgeon - as it is, btw, in Switzerland.

Same for schools. The private system here is tiny, and mainly for expats who move around a lot, do not speak the local language, and want their kid to have the ability to move around the world and still aiming at the same qualifications. When there are NO private schools, and the children of all different people go to the same school, be it the local surgeon's or CEO of a large company, the kids of the refuse collectors and the woodcutter, or the lady at the till at the local supermarket, or the vet's, the Vicar's, etc, etc- then those with influence make sure classes remain small, quality teaching and facilities are provided, for THEIR own kids, and all the kids too. Unfortunately, once people opt out and go private- then the state systems get neglected- as those in power and influence have .. as said, opted out. Out of sight, and out of mind - and funding, etc.

Nothing's contained in the thread, except a load of bigoted tripe and some people trying to establish facts.

When did McDonnell ever try to hide the truth? I don't follow everything he's ever said or written, so I don't know - and it would appear you don't either.

Urmstongram What is "working class"? McDonnell's dad was a bus driver! Young John was obviously a clever lad because he passed his 11+ to go to grammar school, before being sent off to a minor Catholic boarding school, which he stayed at for two years.

The idea that that kind of background makes somebody "posh" is laughable. Well, it would be if some goons didn't believe it.

Oh I’m not going over all the old ground. There’s 7 pages on this thread (just ask GGMk3!) and it’s contained therein.
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When/how did he hide the truth? His education obviously didn't give him any advantages, judging by his academic achievements after leaving school. All his qualifications have been achieved as an adult.

Oh my goodness. This has run on to 7 pages. I have better things to do than worry about someone's parent's choices

Yet you still post GGmk3 strange that!

I said in my OP that some will say it was his parents choice. My thread was not about that (although there has followed some mighty good deflections!).

It was about JMcD’s decision to hide the truth and for what possible reason?

Someone on the Labour team has some money and so did their parents

Nope, it was far worse than that - his parents didn’t pay, they couldn’t afford it. Instead he got there on an LEA grant funded place at a time when this was not at all unusual.

Oh, and let's add this Tory voter to the list. Still on the London Attack. It's quite a feeding frenzy.

Well done * ..we brought them here ..fed them ..educated and gave them a home..turned around and stab us back ...put an instant stop on bringing in this scum.

I have taken the name out and put a * but it's fairly easy to find. I just wanted to be a little bit kind.

Oh my goodness. This has run on to 7 pages. I have better things to do than worry about someone's parent's choices.

Sat 30-Nov-19 12:06:02
Intellectual Socialism is the driving force of most Labour Politicians. The laugh is that an awful lot of working-class people quietly vote Tory, seeing them as the Party of Aspiration. Pounds in the pocket not dreams in the head!

Intellectual? Well, I quite like the idea of clever, intelligent, rational, reasoning people running the country. The post rather suggests the current ERG Tories do not possess these capabilities and I would agree.

As for the "working class" there sort of isn't one anymore just a few old dodderers who are extremely socially right-wing but who still want the NHS and their pension, etc. It's just what everyone else might be getting that's wrong.

People like this talking about the "London Attack"

Sorry to say this, but here we go again. This will never end when we have people in the country who hate us and have a religion and way of life that is totally alien to our own.

They vote Tory.

Oh my goodness, the sky has fallen in. Someone on the Labour team has some money and so did their parents. Well! I could obviously never vote for them even though the policies of the Tories would decimate the country.

The far-right now saying I must not like people with money even though I have no doubt they pay their taxes. You have to laugh or you would cry, wouldn't you? What reality do these Tories and worshipers of "The Boris") live in?

Nice one Labaik