Everything is wrong in this country

Well said Opal

I am continually shocked at the fact that some of my generation are still taken in by Corbyn’s rubbish.

I can just about understand younger people falling for it but honestly, aren’t we supposed to gain wisdom as we get older?

Corbyn and his cronies would be a complete disaster for this country.

That is a fact.

@Anniemac Jeremy Corbyn is an honest, honourable man with a genuine passion to restore the country to how it really should be. He has risen above the smears and lies. He has increased the membership and got far more votes than his predecessor. I honestly don’t understand people believing the lies in the MSM. I have seen zero evidence of anything that people say about him.

Life expectancy was rising continually until 2014.

Once austerity began to bite life expectancy has now fallen back year on year. It is now lower than it was 5 years ago.

Some cities in the U.K. have a higher mortality rate than Turkey, Romania and Poland. These include Manchester, Hull and Blackpool.

Regional divides in the U.K. are amongst the worst in the developed world, with the South East and London hoarding the lions share of economic and political power.

Notably productivity is one of the worst in the developed world.

A child becomes homeless in the UK every 8 minutes.

Poverty is measured in a very different way these days so the figures are not comparable to the “good old” days. A lot of child poverty is because of the way parents budget (or don’t), take drugs, smoke or drink. That is not to say that many aren’t suffering but it just isn’t as black and white as some make it.
Our population has risen enormously, not just by immigration, and the balance between older people and the young working population is very different than that golden era we all remember. Lots of working EU people pay taxes, get working tax credits, child tax credits, etc but their money goes back to their home country to support their families and nobody can blame them for that.
I’m all for voting for someone other than Tory but my choice of a spendthrift Red, an Yellow, or an Open Door Green don’t inspire confidence either.

Surely this begs a question? If we didn't send so much money out of the country we would be able to meet our own needs better? Charity begins at home - but not in GB.

She says it so well

www.facebook.com/JeremyCorbynMP/videos/423111158633095/

Life expectancy calculations are rather complex, it does differ according to lifestyle, diet, occupation.

The government, any government cannot be held responsible for people’s lifestyle choices.

Wow this poster has certainly been brain washed and wishes to push her views down everyone’s throat.
Opal excellent post.

That was excellent jura thank you?

Whitewavemark2,

Is this a party political post for the Labour Party? If you had a different leader you may get somewhere. I do not recognise the country you describe. As one of the most elderly women in this group, over my lifetime we have seen life improve exponentially. You and I must live in different countries!

I love this quote from the late Clive James:

‘Among artists without talent, Marxism will always be popular, since it enables them to blame society for the fact that nobody wants to hear what they have 
to say.’

Of course I do not only know people who are disadvantaged - that is not something I said.

But I do know the circumstances of many who are disadvantaged; and I do not allow my relatively comfortable circumstances to stop me caring about them and wanting to live in a society that also cares.

Here are some examples from my own family and circle of friends:

- an adopted child who was brain injured at birth due to parental drug use and has multiple problems, got no help from the statutory services in spite of battling for this and who fell into bad company, had problems with drugs, and is now in prison, where drugs are freely available, suicides are regular, demanding money with menaces is the norm - there are insufficient staff who care at all about any of this and let it continue.
- a teenage GD who has been unable to cope with the rigid educational system and has severe depression with suicide attempts - a year's wait to access children's mental health services - a year!!!
- a sick OH for whom care at home failed and is now in a nursing home where I am having to find £950 a week to keep him there, so my home is to be sold to pay for it. Homes that the SSD might fund (still with large contributions from me) are not fit for use.
- a small local school whose intake has been doubled in the last year and no extra money at all is forthcoming for the additional pupils - none whatsoever. The OfSted troop in and want to know why it is so hard to maintain standards.
- a GP practice that you ring up and are informed that you are number 36 in the queue.

I could go on. But here am I an average middle class person and I am confronted by all this poverty of services and am struggling.

How much worse must it be for those who are mentally ill, poor and underprivileged.

I cannot bear it when people make judgements about the behaviour of those less fortunate than themselves - how can they begin to understand the factors that have brought families to this situation?

The complacency of those who have about those who have not is sickening.

If anyone hasn’t noticed....what WWM2 is doing ( and has been for a while) is to follow the activist method of bombing threads with so called facts ( anti Conservative).This is what is happening all over social media, for all political parties.
The OP isn’t worth responding to in my view.

Opal I agree with all that you have said ?
Lemongrove - spot-on !

Just to give some balance to the posters who have come from nothing, worked hard and are doing well and vote Conservative - I was brought up in a Council house, the youngest of 3 children whose father left when I was 2 months old. We literally had nothing. My husband was also brought up in a Council house. We paid for our own wedding, bought our own house, had absolutely no help from anybody. Through hard work we have ended up very prosperous, put our 2 children through university and gave both of them deposits to help them buy their own homes. And it is precisely because I KNOW what it is truely like to be deprived and to stuggle that we vote Labour. We are happy to pay more tax, we can afford it, my poor hard-working Mother (she had 3 part-time low-paid jobs (at the same time), when I was school age) could not. I have never forgotten my roots, and am only to happy to share some of my good fortune to help those that can't help themselves.

jE “Corbyn and his cronies would be a complete disaster for this country.

That is a fact.”

How can it be a fact ? Surely it’s an opinion?

LuckyGirl
I applaud your post. You are 100% correct.

I am ill and disabled and life is hard. Much worse after 10 years of Tory Britain but the cuts began under Blair.

Sometimes you cannot work no matter how much you want to. Fact.

“An honest honourable man” ?

Don’t make me laugh.

He’s an IRA and terrorist sympathiser.

Don’t fall for the avuncular act.
He is a dangerous man.

Luckygirl - I assure you I am not complacent about the plight that some people find themselves in, and would move mountains to help those in genuine need who could not help themselves. But surely you are aware that there are some in our society who want to live on handouts and benefits, and are simply not interested in working and helping themselves and their families. Or others, who make poor choices and expect to be fully supported by others, whilst they continue to make poor choices? If we can stop this happening in our society, there would be more money and services available for those like you in times of genuine need. I've seen your posts on other threads, and am so sympathetic to your situation, but there are others who are not so deserving, and as a country we need to recognise that and address it, and stop sweeping it under the carpet.

Lemongrove, yes I've noticed but there are days when we just have to "bomb" back .

Curlywurly - I accept your viewpoint and absolutely respect your decision to vote Labour. However, I'm only happy to share my good fortune with those who CAN'T help themselves, not those who WON'T. There is a big difference, and it's that difference that really needs to be addressed if we, as a country, are ever going to have enough in the way of finances and services to help those who are in genuine need.

Teachers are freely giving children breakfast, as they find it too distressing to watch a struggling hungry child.
I cannot believe that the parents are so poor they can't give their child breakfast. Before the welfare state people lived in dire poverty but feeding the children was always priority number one. I suspect these are the same parents who go to school and to the shops in their pyjamas.

pinkquartz - if you genuinely can't work, then you deserve all of the help the country can give you. That's not what I've been saying. I'll say it again, we should be happy to help those who CAN'T help themselves, but should not be assisting those who CAN, but simply WON'T. Get them back out to work and contributing to the economy, and then let's see what difference that would make to our services. It's a culture change that needs to happen.

9 years of Tory government.