Surprised about LibDems

Ah I watched the clip. Didn’t come across like that. I don’t usually comment on the political threads.
There are too many lies flying about for sensible discussions, in and out of the media.
Won’t be commenting again.

Fake news.

What Ed Davey has said was that the Libdems would not enter a coalition with a Tory party led by Johnson or a Labour party led by Corbyn.

If either of these two should end up leading a minority government the Libdems would treat each issue on its merits and vote on a case by case basis, only supporting measures which they considering the best interests of the country.

Maybe the standards are dropping!
Laibak DH said yesterday that we don't have anyone who seems "statesmanlike" any more (or "stateswomanlike").

I am not a dyed-in-the-wool Tory but believe BJ will get a majority because people are sick of division.

Ed Davey Dept Leader, (Lib Dem’s) on the Andrew Neil show has said if the Tories get a minority government then the Lib Dem’s will work with them.

Haven’t we seen this before?

Well Corbyn looks the part but
He's certainly had a makeover

I wonder if he hates his new look?

He does actually speak better than blustery Boris as well. And I'm saying that as someone that's never liked him much. Maybe the standards are dropping!

Well Corbyn looks the part but...........

I think Corbyn is far more ministerial than Johnson these days. The LibDems just don't have the funds that the Tories and Labour have.

Dyffryn The Guardian is a Labour supporting paper. Of course they will publish an article like this, in order make people like you react as you have.

I am afraid what Jo Swinson has to do is submit herself to the image makers in the way that Jeremy Corbyn has. See any picture of him now and it is clear he now goes to a really good hairdresser, is wearing bespoke suits, shirts and ties that go well with his har and complexion and altogether putting on an appearance of being capable of holding his own an international stage. Pity that what he says and does or doesn't do undermines him.

Jo Swinson would benefit from a good expensive haircut, modulating her voice and getting a stylist in. Lib Dems would probably poll another 5%. Nicola Sturgeon always looks the part. Jo Swinsn looks like a researcher who accidentally found herself on the stage when she opened the wrong door.

Nowadays, like it or not, these things count. I appreciate Boris is the exception to the rule, but I suspect that his time in office may not be much longer than TMs, if he wins the election and begins to be seen on the international scene regularly. His pulled through a hedge backwards look and total disorganisation will soon pall on both Tory MPs and the Tory faithful and internationally he will seen to be a bigger buffoon than Trump. Whatever else we may say (and we do) Trump is always well groomed and has good posture.

And no one can tell them after they've voted that they voted to implement Brexit. Which is wat happened to me after the last election, even though my Labour vote was purely to prevent a disastrous Tory landslide. So, along with many others I decided to support the LibDems so that my [and their] position would be perfectly clear, brexitwise.

chicken IF the LibDems win and are in a position to revoke Brexit (which is highly unlikely), it will be because the people have shown that they want to revoke it by voting LibDem. How is that not democratic?

iluvsylvanianfamilies Your GD has a £52k debt because the Tories, who were the major party in the coalition, wanted to raise tuition fees and the LibDems agreed as a trade off for the pupil premium.

How much will she actually pay back compared with what she would have paid back with the old system? That's the figure which really matters, not the total debt.

Far more important are the facts that the Tories abolished the means-tested and non-repayable grant, which means that the debt will be higher. Moreover, the Tories want to extend the period before the debt is written off for another five years, which will cost graduates dearly when they are in their fifties.

Dyffryn Would you vote tactically, if there was a very good chance that a LibDem could win a seat currently held by Tories?

notanan2 Maybe if they all looked like letterboxes and then nobody would know if they were men or women .

Another really good LD policy is to allow EU citizens living in the UK to vote in any future EU referendum.

It was outrageous that these folk, who were more affected by the result than any of us were disenfranchised. Their names are on the electoral register as they can vote in local elections and EU elections.

When I was on the People's Vote March earlier this year I met a mother and daughter, both Italian citizens, who had not been able to vote in the fraudulent referendum of 2016.

The mother, in her fifties, had come here at the age of eighteen to go to a UK university. She had stayed and worked for more than thirty years as a medical scientist. The daughter, possibly about twenty-five had been born here and like her mother was working and paying taxes here.

How could anyone possibly justify these people not being able to vote in a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU?

Well having just read the LBC link that weekend put up, which is nothing to do with what he or she wrote in their post, I agree with everything Jo Swinson says about teenagers being allowed to have a choice in what school uniform they wear, and I’m glad I’ve already voted LibDem.

So, what other LibDem policy do you find irritating?

I don't understand why people find Jo Swinson

You don't get why someone who said that men being allowed in women's shelters is no higher risk than having lesbians in them, is "irritating".

Okay then.

I don't understand why people find Jo Swinson irritating and are prepared to not vote tactically to prevent the obviously not irritating Johnson have a mandate to change this country beyond all recognition. And why are they getting the total blame for tuition fees? As has been explained by others they did a lot of trade offs with the Tories; none of which they are remembered for. As far as I'm concerned if people vote Tory next week they're welcome to their chlorinated chicken and privatised NHS. Everyone loves Nicola Sturgeon at the moment [and so they should; she's amazing] but choose to ignore the fact that she wants to break up the union. Why do voters have such tunnel vision? I'm still annoyed with Corbyn and his fence sitting for 4 years but I'm still going to vote tactically. I despair. And, if the LibDems do somehow agree to hold up a Conservative Government [other than for making them have another referendum] I'll hold up my hands and say I was wrong and I'm sorry.

“Vote Lib Dem, get Tory” has become something of a Twitter mantra during this election, coined by those who fear the LibDems taking votes from Labour. It is not just the Tory Party which uses dirty tricks to attack the LibDems.

I would not vote Lib Dem either. Apart from Swinsons awful voting record there is an article in the guardian today questioning whether they would go in with the Tories again in the case of a hung parliament. That is too big a risk for me.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/06/lib-dems-deal-tories-jo-swinson-boris-johnson?CMP=share_btn_tw

I voted leave so would not support her position but my granddaughter showed me her voting record and it was appalling!!! consistently voted to cut disability benefit. Thats evil. granddaughter also has £52000 worth of debt because of Lib Dems. Not a popular choice among the young!!

Workers rights, service users rights, protecting the vulnerable from themselves, Jo Swinson and the lobbyists know better!

Police, airport security, prison, NHS staff can self identify as anybody or be forced to accept the self identification of a service user.

We used to have checks, safeguarding and protections based upon biological material reality, now it's all about that special ability spdcial politicians have developed the ability to see into the souls of the penis owning bearded naked Emperor and the funding pharma, training organization and lobbyist spinners!

amp.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/jo-swinson-passionate-gender-neutral-uniform/?__twitter_impression=true

I also noted the responses from John McDonnell on the webchat.

I've voted Lib-Dem for decades, but not this time. The party name is Liberal DEMOCRAT but how can it be democratic to say that they will cancel Brexit when it was as the result of a democratic referendum result? Sorry, Lib Dems, but you've shot yourselves in the foot this time, IMHO.