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travelsafar Thu 12-Dec-19 08:24:20

I am still undecided about who to vote for. I am fearful for our wonderful country and concerned that the 'right' party is put in power to govern us. There is so much derogatory information about the two main parties that i am finding it so difficult to make this important decision. I wonder how many people may feel the same and will just end up not voting at all!!!

jura2 Thu 12-Dec-19 11:12:10

Firecracker ''Virtue signalling is the popular modern habit of indicating that one has virtue merely by expressing disgust or favour for certain political ideas or cultural happenings.

Why would anyone care about strangers more than themselves (unless you are Mother Theresa) I and I would think most people would think about their own family and themselves first.''

TBH I am sick to the back teeth of the accusation of 'virtue signalling' whenever caring for anything is mentionned. What is the word or words that should be used for the opposite, I wonder.

And since when does caring for ones family, means that you somehow don't have to, or want to, care for others less fortunate? We are talking here about paying a bit more tax to help raise the standard of education of all, to ensure the NHS is properly funded, and that those who somehow have fallen on bad times, be it due to health, or lose their jobs, or sickness, handicap, etc, etc - are supported and helped, if possible to get back on their feet and contributing again.

And from a very selfish point of view- if you don't care about the above - when society will become so divided, and the have nots see no chance of ever of getting back on their feet and have absolutely nothing to lose - then we will have to live behind electrified fences with armed guards- as in the suburbs of Jburg or even Cape Town. Is that what would want for your grandchildren? I don't, for sure.

Doing what is 'best for your family' goes way beyond your family and circle- but affects the whole of society. Why is it northern countries understand this- and the UK does not? The UK is still riddled with prejudices from its own history and past, sadly.

Davida1968 Thu 12-Dec-19 11:00:27

Please, please use your vote. You could write comments on your ballot paper if you simply can't bear to nominate any of the candidates. (All the candidates - or their representatives - are required to look at a "spoiled" ballot paper, so you'd get your message across.) Better still, vote for the person/party whom you think will do the best job to care for you, this nation, and all our citizens.

loopyloo Thu 12-Dec-19 10:59:13

Been to vote and for the first time ever, there was a long queue. What does that signify?

Tooting29 Thu 12-Dec-19 10:55:22

I am voting for the local candidate who I think has the constituency intersts first and foremost and will do his/her best for our area. I have read through local materials and contacted candidates directly and my vote is based on the responses received. I read but dismissed the hyperbole, aggressive negative campaigning, fake news, twitterati rants and social media bias. I am content with the choice I have made but it was tough.

Greeneyedgirl Thu 12-Dec-19 10:44:12

I am ill today, but even if I have to crawl there on my hands and knees I will vote. The irony is my vote won't count because the sitting MP has a big majority, and I am not voting for him.
We've got a very imperfect democracy, where the results of the election depends on just a handful of constituencies.

Firecracker123 Thu 12-Dec-19 10:40:00

GagoJo
Virtue signalling is the popular modern habit of indicating that one has virtue merely by expressing disgust or favour for certain political ideas or cultural happenings.

Why would anyone care about strangers more than themselves (unless you are Mother Theresa) I and I would think most people would think about their own family and themselves first.

mcem Thu 12-Dec-19 10:36:43

Our family WhatsApp group makes interesting reading this morning. Voting in various constituencies in Scotland and Wales and all voting anti-Tory. (Age range 19-71). We're posting as we vote and assume we'll have a 100% turnout! Am off out now to add my vote to the oust conservatives movement!

Shez1955 Thu 12-Dec-19 10:27:34

Spoil your ballot paper by drawing a line across it if you really can’t decide.

dragonfly46 Thu 12-Dec-19 10:05:12

Maw ?

Lucca Thu 12-Dec-19 10:02:09

If undecided have a quick go on this website and do the survey. voteforpolicies.org

jura2 Thu 12-Dec-19 09:32:21

A vote for Conservatives will very likely lead to NO Deal - as there will have to be a border between NI and Ireland, or UK and NI- and because that is what the ERG and those who pull the strings from beyond our shores - want.

Devorgilla Thu 12-Dec-19 09:32:20

Brexit in haste, repent at leisure. Vote for a second referendum. Vote Labour.
Don't want to vote in a very right wing government that will take away much from you and give you little in return? Vote Labour.
And just for the record I did not vote for Corbyn, although I did vote for my excellent Remain Labour MP, but I don't want a walkover for any party. I want them to have to fight for every policy to get through so they can do as little damage as possible until we return to an era of states person-like politicians again. And unbiased reporting.

B9exchange Thu 12-Dec-19 09:29:34

Treat it as a second referendum as far as Brexit goes - if you want to leave the EU with Boris's deal vote Conservative, if you want to leave without a deal vote Brexit Party, if you can't face the thought of leaving at all vote Lib Dems, and if you can't make up your mind, vote Labour Party!

The NHS should never be part of politics, and they will all ignore their manifestos once in power.

jura2 Thu 12-Dec-19 09:27:24

Same here- and I have more than 1 house.

GagaJo Thu 12-Dec-19 09:19:40

Craftyone, you're offensive. I'm ALL of those and yet I care about others more than myself.

Get over yourself. Talk about nimbyism.

CoolioC Thu 12-Dec-19 09:19:01

All women should vote, c’mon girls that’s what the Suffragettes died for.

CoolioC Thu 12-Dec-19 09:16:58

Sorry, should have been abroad for under 15 years.

craftyone Thu 12-Dec-19 09:16:41

if you have savings, a garden, some shares, a pension, own a house then beware, robbing the average person to feed the socialist/commie propoganda

CoolioC Thu 12-Dec-19 09:15:49

Proxy voted. Have lived in EU under 15 years so entitled to vote.

Cabbie21 Thu 12-Dec-19 09:09:19

I will vote, but where I live, it won’t make any difference. I feel disenfranchised.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 12-Dec-19 09:07:39

lemon no

Teetime Thu 12-Dec-19 09:07:11

Well its Tory heartland here but at least the dreaded and quite lazy Alan Duncan has been replaced by Alicia Kearns and I hope she will take more interest in the constituency especially keeping our local hospital and maternity unit open, improving our roads so we are not continually jammed with huge lorries and improving aid to our local schools in poorer areas. We are a Leave area too led by local farmers.

Anniebach Thu 12-Dec-19 09:05:41

lemon I assure you I will moan regardless of the results

lemongrove Thu 12-Dec-19 09:03:33

Can’t you ever just give adviceWWM2 to a fellow GNer instead of LP activist chat?

travels good advice from Gaga and sunseeker and I agree with both.Do vote though, we can’t moan about the results if we don’t take an active part in it.

crystaltipps Thu 12-Dec-19 09:03:15

In our anachronistic system it all depends on where you live whether your vote counts for anything. A party can gain a majority with 30% of the votes. So it depends on your constituency whether or not you want the particular candidate to win or not.