Will the remainers admit defeat?

You don't always fight something just to win it. You fight it because you believe that it is bad and, because of that you don't suddenly change your mind. Those people that fought against being in the EU for many years did so because they thought it was bad. There is still not a single person I trust or respect that came out in favour of leaving the EU and I will never listen to Tim Wetherspoon, Katie Hopkins, Tommy Robinson and Trump. As far as I'm concerned, I fought on the right side and shall continue to do so.

I have read this whole thread.....
It seems no one has noticed that only 43% of those who actually voted, voted for the party that won.
For those who "can't spell Pinocchio" that means 57% of those who voted did not vote for the party that won!

A marvellous situation if you think about it.

I would speak to your MP or the Electoral Commission.

Chestnut there have always been minor irregularities. Remember the Irish dictum, that dates back a long way. Vote early, vote often. As the same person would change outfit and go out to vote as anyone on the register who was too dead or too lazy to vote for themselves.

And while there are a handful of seats whose majority is so marginal it could make difference, for most constituencies, it will not make any difference.

Systematic cheating that was effective would probably require at least a million fake votes to make a difference in most elections.
000s of votes to

The council demanded a reason and gave me a list of choices including working away, out of the country and disabled. In the case of the last a doctors certification was required. It said no other reasons acceptable and that was as recently as June this year.

It was not for lack of trying.

FarNorth, applying online would be easier, but not all are online, so in those cases, I would contact the office and ask for application forms to be sent to whoever wanted one.

I hope there is some new legislation for postal votes however, because as I understand it the system is abused. It must be one person one vote. There have also been rumours around students registering at both home and university and possibly voting twice.

We just asked for a postal vote and got it. No one asked us why.

We applied as soon as the election was announced as we had a holiday booked and we would be away on polling day. It was for this election only but we could have had an indefinite one had we wanted it.

If you had gone online the process might have been easier and clearer.

Curlywhirly, I think they probably have to request their own postal votes.
There are no restrictions such as you describe, aprilrose.

Aprilrose - I don't know who told you that you have to have a particular reason to want a Postal Vote, you don't! I worked in the Electoral Registration office at our local Council (now retired) and unless there has been a recent drastic change in the law that I am unaware of (I have just checked online and there hasn't) anyone can request one. You definitely do not need a reason. Please contact your Electoral Registration Dept and explain what you have been told and make sure you request Postal Votes for all in your family that want one!

The person was out of line, however your comment that 90 yr olds don’t get drunk was a silly generalisation to me

summerlove, my mother is far from frail and weak. She is in good health for her age, but she does have dificulty walking.

It did not require some smart a* LG officer to say she was drunk. She was not drunk. However, even if she had been, the smart a* comment was not necessary from anyone.

My mother, like the rest of my family are "Temperance" We dont drink.

I often worked away from home.

That i considered a reason. I looked into it for my husband and I was told we had no reason. Ditto my mother. They are not away from home. They have no disability diagnosis no reason according the the council register

I've had a postal vote for years and there was no special requirement other than I often worked away from home.

On the serious matter of getting Brexit done and dusted and getting behind BJ. On whatever day that occurs, my DGS will officially become a 'foreigner' and I'm very upset and angry about that. It also affected parts of my job and a huge amount of my DD's employment.

So no, I won't be 'getting behind' any of it. It's what the masses voted for, so this remainer says get on with it. I'm just going to get on with my life.

That is total nonsense aprilrose
Firstly, my husband would have liked a postal vote ut he was denied it because he did not have "grounds". The fact he chooses to remain indoors and wont go out anymore is not good enough because he does not have a suitable diagnosis

Missing the point completely, I absolutely know 90+ year olds who get drunk. They also go ballroom dancing weekly.

Not all are frail weak old things

It wasn't just that one comment, there was more, but I thought that was sufficient. You know you can do better.

What a silly cheap remark, I am sorry, april a whole series of remarks you have made in this fashion make you sound like a corbynista and devalues everything you post. Please return to the sensible thoughtful standard you started with

Says you. I could make the comment that I find your comments daft or silly or be even more candid and say what I think of them but I chose instead to comment only where I think I want to make a point.

Yes, the one about the polling offical being a remainer might be below the belt but lets face it, by and large it is remain voters who hurl insults more than leave ones.

I bet that nasty woman was a remain voter

Indeed that woman was nasty, aprilrose and I'm glad you have complained.
Your comment about nasty = remain voter is also nasty.
Think on.

Jo Swinson lost her seat too - she went to battle on the "Stop brext" ticket and now we know what her constituents thought of that

Jo Swinson lost her seat to SNP - another Remain party.
SNP made gains in Scotland, winning 48 of 59 seats.

I bet that nasty woman was a remain voter - cant see anyone else believing a 90+ year old was drunk!).

What a silly cheap remark, I am sorry, april a whole series of remarks you have made in this fashion make you sound like a corbynista and devalues everything you post. Please return to the sensible thoughtful standard you started with.

As I said on another thread, the country has spoken and most people are feeling positive, but the doom mongers are in full flow on these boards. They have decided Armageddon is here and Boris is the antichrist.

I agree that does seem to be the case here. I can only assume that gransnet forums are skewed from the general population.

Bt the way, my mum, for what it is worth, thought this so important that she did go out and she did walk up that hill slowly and she did shuffle into the polling station and she did cast that vote - for the Conservatives. ( after a lifetime of abstaining or voting Labour.). She is also a Leave voter.

She even suffered the nasty coment and indignity of being publically accused by one of those government officers who seeing her shuffle in slowly and a little unsteady after that long walk accused her of being drunk! ( I bet that nasty woman was a remain voter - cant see anyone else believing a 90+ year old was drunk!).

Yes I did report the comment to both the new MP and to the Council who put those gob smites in the polling stations to give out the ballot papers (they are not there to make comments).

Other members of my family old and young (except my husband) did the same.

So now we are going to throw the country to the wolves Dannirae.

The majority of the voters thought about it. They had to choose between a rock and a hard place and they decided differently to you. Try and be a good loser.

Firstly, my husband would have liked a postal vote ut he was denied it because he did not have "grounds". The fact he chooses to remain indoors and wont go out anymore is not good enough because he does not have a suitable diagnosis .

My mother is in a similar situation. She is simply "old". she can walk. She has not seen a doctor in 20 years so is considered able to go to the polling station despite the fact it is 200 yeards up the road but would mean 40 mins walk for my elderly mum ( nonagenarian) because she walks so slowly and its up hill. Again no diagnosis and no other reason ( unlike the twice voting students - dont tell me they didnt I know some who have admitted personally to me they did because they didnt know otherwise , I didnt report them - who vote by post in their homes and in person in university towns..... I do not think it was insignificant that the only bits of red (Labour) were in university towns where the students reside.

So now we are going to throw the country to the wolves - I suppose I have to accept it but don't expect me to be happy about it
A leaver 'friend' announced that this was going to make Britain GREAT again........I shall be waiting with bated breath for this to happen