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Dear Conservative Voters,

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Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 11:52:26

You won.

Now own it.

Get Brexit done by January 31st, get us a great deal, or no deal and great new trade alliances that positively impact our economy.

Get us our new nurses, our new police, our 40 new hospitals. Ensure the NHS is not sold off.

You won, you own it.

I expect you to see this through. Write to your MP, go protest every time your elected government doesn't fulfill a promise. Sign petitions. Prove to me you wanted what is best for our country. Prove to the government you expect what is best for this country.

Don't just vote for it, fight for it.

The Labour voters will.

Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 20:40:41

My son said today, "you watch mum, no more Little Britain, we will be Little USA“ I nearly lost my parsnips.

Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 20:38:24

Did I? Lol too many wines with dinner

SalsaQueen Sun 15-Dec-19 20:34:44

Starblaze I know what "aspersions" means..... I was being facetious, as you said (page 1) "aspergions"

Smileless2012 Sun 15-Dec-19 20:31:38

Better this 'disaster' than the disaster we would have had if Corbyn had become PM.

M0nica Sun 15-Dec-19 20:27:28

trish you are being deliberately obtuse. You had plenty of good policies, but to put it bluntly, Corbyn, McConnell, Watson and McLuskey, but especially Corbyn were disliked and distrusted.

Given the choice between Johnson and Corbyn, both unpleasant, untrustworthy men, voters decided even Johnson was better than Corbyn. This is why I say the election was yours to win but you threw it away.

Read the Labour supporting papers: The Guardian and the Observer. Even they are saying the leadership was the problem.

Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 20:26:54

If hate crime doubled after the referendum, what may happen after Brexit

Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 20:21:38

I think what worries me at the moment is that, even though there are of course some crappy people on the left, the majority I know are kind and decent people. Every person I know from the school I work with voted Labour as an example.

Are they going to be treated worse now?

Are minorities going to be treated worse now?

Allthough I also know decent and kind Conservative voters, I feel like the bad elements among them will only be empowered.

trisher Sun 15-Dec-19 20:09:43

How would you have liked the LP to go M0nica to allow foodbanks to continue, to not build social housing, to not have Green policies, to not believe that there is a way out of poverty and a fair wage is part of that.
It is unpleasant that a government is now in power whose record on lying and incompetence seems to have been forgotten. That there are people blaming the LP for the decision they have taken not to support policies which would have improved people's lives. It's not the LPs fault if you choose to support a lying duplicitous PM who actually never engaged, never answered questions and ignored the plight of ordinary people, possibly because had he actually been asked how he would "Get Brexit Done" he wouldn't have had an answer.
It is unpleasant that people are not taking responsibility for the disaster they have landed us in.

Smileless2012 Sun 15-Dec-19 19:55:58

It is unpleasant I agree Monica.

Smileless2012 Sun 15-Dec-19 19:52:32

Those who support those policies.

M0nica Sun 15-Dec-19 19:51:31

What are you talking about trish. Far from denigrating Labour supporters I have been consistently supporting them against their arrogant party since I got home on Friday evening and there is absolutely nothing in my last post about the voters anyway.

Perhaps that is the problem you assume all Labour voters are party members. Labour lost the election because they treated their traditional voters with contempt. The direction the Labour party has gone in the last few years, may have please the metropolitan elite, where it seems to have most support but ignored its traditional voters who did not like the leadership, especially the junta at the top, did not like the way the party was going to the far left, did not like its treatment of the anti-semitism row and would not vote for a party whose leader was pacifist, terrorist supporting, and anti-British. Read today's Observer. It has been saying what other people have been saying for months. When will you all read the writing on the wall. Even papers that support Labour are saying your leaders lost it for you.

The way that the Labour have been such sour, mean-minded losers is deeply unpleasant. The election was yours to win and you threw it away.

Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 19:42:46

So who is actually going to do their bit to fight for the policies voted in?

I will.

Smileless2012 Sun 15-Dec-19 19:39:36

So stop going on about it then Starblaze.

It isn't only Labour supporters who put peoples welfare above profiteering trisher.

There appears to be from some, the mistaken assumption that all Conservative supports are independently wealthy, with private health care and enormous pension pots!

trisher Sun 15-Dec-19 19:33:57

M0nica if you choose to denigrate Labour supporters for believing in policies which put the welfare of the majority of people ahead of profiteering. I may have to start asking those who voted for the lying duplicitous PM if they were simply misled or if they really don't care about the increasingly desperate lives some people now lead.

Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 19:32:43

I don't really care Smileless tbh. Your problem not mine. I don't know why I ever bother trying to talk to you, I'm not going to be whoever it is you need me to be to feel better about yourself. I'll just go back to. Ignoring ridiculous comments because there is no point building bridges with someone who can't meet you half way, one side just collapses.

Smileless2012 Sun 15-Dec-19 19:31:01

Good post Monica and despite the damage he's done to his own party, he still hasn't stepped down as the leader!

Urmstongran Sun 15-Dec-19 19:30:02

Oh MOnica your last paragraph was really witty!

Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 19:29:45

I actually like my Conservative MP, he has fought for me on 3 issues in the past. No problem with him whatsoever. Its Boris I can't stand but he has 5 years to prove me wrong.

Smileless2012 Sun 15-Dec-19 19:29:42

I'm not following you around Starblaze, I post on threads that interest me regardless of whether you post on them or not.

I accused you of nothing, simply stated that it isn't very nice being accused of being someone you're not because it isn't, is it.

M0nica Sun 15-Dec-19 19:27:14

I do hope that all these people so anxious that the Conservatives should be kept up to the mark are being equally active in holding their party and its leaders to account over the way they threw their best opportunity in a long time away by sticking to a leader, who was disliked and despised so widely.

In the Observer today, MPs, ex MPs and political commentators were saying how badly he played in the northern and midland constituencies the party lost. The army has provided employment for so many men in those areas and most families have family or people in their wider social networks who are ex forces, Corbyn's pacifist, pro-terrorist, anti- British stance played very badly in the areas where most seats were lost. His dog biscuit of the day offers also played badly with many people feeling they were being 'bought' like s supermarket offer, with no explanation of how it could be afforded.

I have never met a worse set of losers than the defeated Labour party this time round. They convinced themselves they could win, shot themselves in both feet and still expected to set a new record in the 100 m sprint and are now blaming the timekeeeper because they didn't.

Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 19:26:35

Urmstrongran. Already doing that, evidence above, good grief.

Smileless2012 Sun 15-Dec-19 19:26:00

It was an example trisher of how when the USA sneezes, the UK catches a cold.

Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 19:25:39

Is there any chance you could stop following me around being passive aggressive and accusing me of things that didn't come from me Smileless? It's getting very old now and it would be nice if we could exist in the same place without animosity.

Thank you.

Urmstongran Sun 15-Dec-19 19:25:26

I am usually the sort of person who tries to see the best in people and their motives for doing anything

Well, Starblaze how about being like that with Boris?
?

trisher Sun 15-Dec-19 19:20:28

notanan2 of course the oncept that Labour bancrupted the country has been sold to the public. It's a much simpler concept than the involved processes of international banking and the effect of subprime lending which caused the whole thing During the ensuing financial crisis of 2007–08 (also called the subprime mortgage crisis), nearly all lending froze in the United States, crippling the U.S. economy as well as the economies of countries in western Europe and elsewhere.
Quite how the Labour party caused the US market to crash I don't know.