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Dear Conservative Voters,

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Starblaze Sun 15-Dec-19 11:52:26

You won.

Now own it.

Get Brexit done by January 31st, get us a great deal, or no deal and great new trade alliances that positively impact our economy.

Get us our new nurses, our new police, our 40 new hospitals. Ensure the NHS is not sold off.

You won, you own it.

I expect you to see this through. Write to your MP, go protest every time your elected government doesn't fulfill a promise. Sign petitions. Prove to me you wanted what is best for our country. Prove to the government you expect what is best for this country.

Don't just vote for it, fight for it.

The Labour voters will.

notanan2 Mon 16-Dec-19 15:01:01

Everyone starts out respecting others. Children are naturally good.
People's respect is lost through patterns of negative experiences.

You can't just demand respect to be re-instated. It has to be earnt with bridges built.

trisher Mon 16-Dec-19 14:52:33

You can't "drill" respect into anyone, you have to earn it!

notanan2 Mon 16-Dec-19 14:49:45

No thanks I do not want anyone caring for me who doesnt want to be there!

Starblaze Mon 16-Dec-19 14:49:40

This is my prime minister, my government. Of course I can hold them to account and expect others to do the same. Isn't everyone tired of broken promises? I don't think I am being particularly picked on? One person here annoys me as they don't like me, follow me to all my posts to wind me up and then cry they are being picked onwhich is just silly.

I've always worked in care, my eldest has volunteered with me in the past. He still isn't sure what he wants to do, when he finishes uni. My second eldest has also volunteered with me, wants to be an art teacher.

Really do have to go now, secret santa and mulled wine with my lovely colleagues

CoolioC Mon 16-Dec-19 14:48:34

Trisher, I agree with your sentiment. What happened to society that respected those above trades as well as Teachers. We cannot expect to import from other nations.

It’s time to drill respect into younger society. I do see some caring youngsters but I am afraid there are not nearly enough.

I believe from talking to some Dutch yesterday that their 16-18 year olds work in elderly people’s homes under a compulsory scheme. I thought it would be such a good idea in the UK. 16-18 year olds compulsory working in the public sector.

notanan2 Mon 16-Dec-19 14:43:15

I mean if you dont want the unpleasant tribalism around labour broughg up, don't bring it up!

notanan2 Mon 16-Dec-19 14:42:33

You cant post about Cons/non labour voters then claim to be picked on when they defend themselves!

trisher Mon 16-Dec-19 14:42:16

My DIL is a doctor, my DS works for the NHS in training.

trisher Mon 16-Dec-19 14:40:02

The problem is that when you build a society that considers everything has a price and nothing is valuable without a price ticket you are unlikely to get young people who believe in public service in any way. It amazes me that there are so many caring youngsters out there.

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-19 14:21:45

Not in a position to do so Coolio but do agree with your previous post.

CoolioC Mon 16-Dec-19 14:17:52

Is anyone putting their children/grandchildren forward as in my previous to become Police officer, nurses, doctors etc? Anyone of their kids willing to volunteer as PO’s etc?

Get back on the subject not spouting bile please to each other.

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-19 14:14:00

There's nothing divisive about my posts Starblaze I think the problem is that you are unable to accept a different point of view without regarding it as demonising.

Starblaze Mon 16-Dec-19 14:10:55

Let's face it Smileless, your not helping on the division front *rolls eyes

Later ladies, better things to do

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-19 14:09:30

I've got a vision of an increase in hatred and division because it's believed by some to be a democratic right to say whatever you like, whenever you like regardless of the harm it can do to others.

Starblaze Mon 16-Dec-19 14:05:01

Honestly, I've got a vision of ladies running around grasping their petticoats declaring "uncouth" and fainting into the begonias.

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-19 13:56:18

Yes what happened to those Madgran there used to be some good ones.

Madgran77 Mon 16-Dec-19 13:54:30

I think it is perfectly possible to express differing political views without expressing hatred.

There have been hateful and, in my view, highly inappropriate memes and what have you on various social media, about Tories, about Labourites, about "Leavers", about "Remainers" ...and many more .
Interestingly on all political sides and Brexit groups, it is women who have received the most "hate" communications; chants at women MPs have been the most vitriolic!! (read this in a report on the rise of "hate politics" but can't find link; apologies.) Labour has been vilified for anti semitism and their responses haven't covered them in glory! Tories have been vilified for anti Islamic incidents and haven't covered themselves in glory either! Both parties promised the world and the "end of austerity"!

None of the above suggests that yelling obnoxious stuff in the name of "hatred" actually does anything constructive for anyone!

I also think that the only a acceptable football chants are about football teams, not individuals.

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-19 13:53:49

No one is demonising Labour voters. Who has said that all those chanting 'we hate the tories' at a football match were labour supporters?

I certainly don't feel the need to justify the way I voted in the GE and neither should anyone else. I'm glad that I don't feel the need to justify supporting intolerance, ignorance and division either.

As has been said, it's a slippery slope when chanting hate ever becomes acceptable.

As for demonising Labour voters, what about demonising tory supporters with the constant rhetoric that we are all wealthy and selfish and don't care about the NHS because we can all afford private health care?

CoolioC Mon 16-Dec-19 13:51:04

Good idea Starblaze return to the argument. Also Grany talked about police officers and nurses. I see it taking a good 10 years to get the doctors and nurses we need by the time THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED in the UK. Get the kids to see that it’s not all about immediate success but hard work to train for the above too much watching rubbish on their Social media sites and thinking by wobbling your backside on tele gets you good money! Get the kids to volunteer, make it compulsory like they have in France and other EU countries so they have some respect for the elderly instead of being degrading about them. Yes, get the young middle class (actually working class) off their backsides. DONT KEEP PINCHING TALENT from abroad.

Starblaze Mon 16-Dec-19 13:36:19

I think the suggestion that football fans who come from all walks of life in their hundreds of thousands might turn racist because they hate Boris Johnson absolutely ridiculous.

And I hate football. Almost as boring as cricket.

Starblaze Mon 16-Dec-19 13:31:23

Let's go back to how we can really ensure the country gets what has been voted for.

Starblaze Mon 16-Dec-19 13:29:30

M0nica, if you ask me it is very ignorant, even enabling to compare "I hate the tories" to racism. You do truly understand the suffering of generations right?

Why are people so determined to demonise Labour voters? Do you feel you need to somehow justify your recent decisions?

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-19 13:12:45

Well I don't entirely agree with that trisher but of course you're entitled to your point of view as we all are.

trisher Mon 16-Dec-19 12:54:40

Momentum haven't made me hate anyone I have always despised Toriies because I know the hisory of working people the oppresion they suffered and the opposition the Tories have always made to any improvement in their circumstances or rights.

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-19 12:49:14

No trisher you are not expected to keep quiet but there ways in which people can express their discontent without the need for chanting hate.

I agree notanan.