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Big Ben Can Bong For Brexit

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Calendargirl Sun 22-Dec-19 07:29:55

I see in my Sunday paper that the new Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, has said he would allow Big Ben to ring out to mark Brexit on January 31st, ‘If MP’s wish to do that’.
How refreshing that this Speaker seems keen to do his job impartially, so unlike the bombastic Bercow, who did everything in his power to force his own views about Brexit at every turn.

Sparkling Wed 29-Jan-20 08:04:35

But it's true. If it helps a charity why not.. I never thought the day would come, so I am grateful to Boris. There will be things that he does I don't agree with, that is true of anyone. But well done Boris, good bye Bercow. Whoever votes after Boris. We will still be out, that is what matters. Let the bells ring.

vegansrock Wed 29-Jan-20 07:51:00

Talk about tacky. It’s not even grammatically correct.

vegansrock Wed 29-Jan-20 07:46:09

I expect all you lovely people will be buying one of these (not available till February 10th).
?

Labaik Wed 29-Jan-20 00:06:02

POGS; this is from the BBC2013
' Help for Heroes has announced it will not accept donations from the far-right English Defence League.
EDL leader Tommy Robinson started fundraising after the murder of soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich on Wednesday.
But a Help for Heroes spokesman said a fundraising web page set up by Mr Robinson would be closed, and no EDL donations would be accepted.
The charity said it does not accept donations from any political party.
The charity spokesman added: "He's the only one that's come to our attention but tonight we'll be doing a cross-count to make sure that anyone else that's saying they're EDL will not be allowed to fundraise for us.
"It's the same for any political party, we don't allow political fundraising. As a charity, we're non-political."'
...as I pointed out I had googled the information for verification but the SCRAM article was the easiest one to post. I hope you find this information satisfactory.

Nezumi65 Tue 28-Jan-20 22:54:38

Oh I like Roger McGough’s poem

paddyanne Tue 28-Jan-20 21:51:53

Meanwhile a large group of MEP's were photographed with a sign saying "We'll leave the light on for you" in reply to Alan Smyth's speech telling them Scotland didn't want to leave.There have been numerous comments from representatives of the remaining 27 countries saying how much they love Scotland and look forward to our return and that they too will "leave the light on"

We WILL be back !

vegansrock Tue 28-Jan-20 21:44:57

Lack of preparation and forethought is Brexit in a nutshell.

GrandmaKT Tue 28-Jan-20 21:41:44

Roger McGough sums up my feelings perfectly:

When Big Ben bongs
And some sing songs
I’m staying in.

I leave the cheers
To the Brexiteers
I’m staying in.

What’s done is done
So have your fun
But I wish we were staying in.

twitter.com/mcgoughroger/status/1217785487106154496?s=21

lemongrove Tue 28-Jan-20 19:52:08

I would be very surprised if they refused a sizeable donation from the British public.
Am not fussed about Bongs ? just a glass of Bolly will do nicely, and better the money goes to such a good charity.

POGS Tue 28-Jan-20 19:41:33

Labaik

Perhaps the sources of information you ' checked ' with before posting what Scram News said could be of interest.

I had never heard of Scram News but I don't post or read anything nor give credence to sites/forums etc. that I know nothing about. The fat man in a chair/St Petersburg bot syndrome.

I am not saying the story is misinformation but I am interested if Help For Heroes refuses to take such a large sum of money.

Labaik Tue 28-Jan-20 18:12:12

I have got no idea who is behind Scram news but did check that what was said in the article said is actually correct before I posted. Which it is. Personally, I don't think ex servicemen should rely on charity; this country should provide for them. Mark Francois, who seems to think of himself as some sort of soldier is, I believe, just someone who has been in the T.A. for a while. The whole thing has been a PR disaster, imo but I wouldn't expect anything less from Francois.

POGS Tue 28-Jan-20 18:01:37

Maizie D / Labaik

Reading your posts I have to ask :-

Are you both of the opinion Help For Heroes will refuse the money? You seem assured in your posts that there was a stupidity in naming Help For Heroes in the first place.

Labaik who / what / where is behind Scram News?

Lovetopaint037 Tue 28-Jan-20 10:28:01

I’m closing my eyes and ears to it all. Just given up. I certainly don’t think our iconic Big Ben should be used to “celebrate” a precarious future.

MaizieD Tue 28-Jan-20 10:20:50

That's not the point, cg. It's the lack of preparation and forethought that is very worrying.

Calendargirl Tue 28-Jan-20 10:17:32

If Help For Heroes don’t accept the money, I’m sure another worthy charity will benefit.

MaizieD Tue 28-Jan-20 10:07:05

There is an axiom which says 'politics is the art of the possible'.

This absurd MP has clearly gone into this project without any consideration as to whether or not it is 'possible'. Hundreds of gullible people have contributed to his fundraiser yet it seems he didn't even check to see if his alternative, donating money to the Help for Heroes charity was possible.

If this is a foretaste of what the calibre of our negotiations with the EU and the rest of the world is going to be it is deeply worrying.

Labaik Tue 28-Jan-20 00:11:07

'The fundraising drive, led by Stand Up 4 Brexit and Tory MP Mark Francois on the GoFundMe website, was cancelled at noon on Monday, with the money raised now being donated to the Help for Heroes military charity.
But Scram News reported that Help for Heroes are nonpolitical and could be inclined to refuse the money similar to how it declined a donation from the far-right organisation the English Defence League in 2013.
It is reported that the campaign did not approach Help for Heroes before making the commitment.
Francois has expressed disappointment that his campaign had failed but said he was still looking forward to celebrating on January 31st.
"The response from the British people has been fantastic and we are deeply grateful to everyone who donated," Francois said.
"However, having made final attempts over the last several days to persuade the House of Commons authorities that Big Ben should chime, we regret to report that we have been unsuccessful and therefore we feel we can no longer ask people to donate.
"We officially closed the fund at noon today."'

POGS Mon 27-Jan-20 23:43:07

£272. 000 now going to Help For Heroes.

Something good came out of it.

Labaik Mon 27-Jan-20 23:27:27

If anyone's disappointed that they can't give to the bong fund they can give to this. I'm rather hoping that it's fake news but perhaps any Conservative Party members can enlighten me....

vegansrock Mon 27-Jan-20 18:03:12

Yeah £350 million p.w. for the NHS is finally about to happen. Can’t wait.

Pantglas2 Mon 27-Jan-20 17:53:44

So true about the gift that keeps on giving Laibak - hundreds of thousands extra now going to charity! Every cloud etc..

Labaik Mon 27-Jan-20 17:17:31

But impending is more correct [imo]….

JenniferEccles Mon 27-Jan-20 16:54:55

You could be right Greta

I guess imminent would have been better !

Greta Mon 27-Jan-20 16:51:22

I think Nigel Farage deserves some sort of acknowledgement for his part in our impending freedom.

Not sure if I would have used 'impending' here. I always think that 'impending' means that something unpleasant or unwanted is about to happen.

JenniferEccles Mon 27-Jan-20 16:43:19

I think Nigel Farage deserves some sort of acknowledgement for his part in our impending freedom.

He was instrumental in Cameron’s decision to give us the Referendum, following the success of his party in local elections.

Had he and his party not done well , would we have had the Referendum?

I doubt it.