Damage done to the UK ALREADY following the elction

Wow - he's done all that already! Good to see he's been working so hard over the holiday season.
It's not ideal - But Corbyn would have been scary.

Opal
The poster who goes by the user name of, Grany, was a member before WhiteWave stopped posting on 12th December 2019.

For those who want to preach to the rest of us, do you think Jesus would have been a Leaver or a Remainer?

Hard times

Janpt

What? Has no one ever fallen on times with a conservative government?

Anything has got to be better than a Corbyn and his cronies led government. There would be no need for food banks if people did not have children they could not afford to feed and cloth themselves and expected the tax payer to do it for them.
People should learn to take pride in their own achievements instead of relying on the government to constantly provide for them .

I'm truly baffled! The UK has had a Conservative government for 10 years. Apart from the years when Johnson was Mayor of London, he has only ever rebelled against the Conservative Party over leaving the EU.

Sooo … who's to blame for the allegedly non-common sense approach, if not the government which has been in power for the last ten years?

None of this bodes well.

By the way, I'm still waiting for some non-blustery examples of conciliation in Johnson's New Year speech?

I think, after reading that Summerlove I would be asking ladymuck to define decadent and majority, sensible and rational too.

I am absolutely sure she thinks only those on the right are "sensible".

ladymuck
Time to call a halt and get some common sense back into politics. Trouble is, the decadent seem to be in the majority, so us sensible, rational ones have a battle on our hands.

Define common sense. As you put “lefties” down, does that mean only those on the right have common sense and are sensible?

What an odd thought

No, not at all GrannyGravy. I'm just a bit pedantic about terminology. I know how the UK voting system works. The Conservatives weren't voted with a majority of votes, so I corrected the claim.

I understand that you don't think the general rules of debate and discussion should hold in your case, Beckett. On another thread, I pointed out the multiplicity of divisions in society. One of them was between those who believe we need as educated a country as possible and those who don't. In some articles you see the as the "have degrees" and the "don't have degrees" but I don't think it is as simple as that. I realise the divide between the have and don't have degrees affects economic progress for many of them but for those who do and don't want as highly educated a population as possible you can get a divide on simply what constitutes good manners.

You, it seems, fall on the don't want highly educated people or at least don't want the ways of the educated. I, and some others, see a difference between chat and debate. When I am chatting with my friends I accept that we will be making our own feelings felt. When we are debating something - not something I do with all my friends, they are not all interested and it would be rude and unkind to inflict it on them - we would recognise that it is actually bad manners to expect someone to accept our opinion, in a reasoned discussion, at face value. We are used to backing it with published views or highlighting peer-reviewed research.

So while you think how others behave is rude and arrogant for not accepting your opinion as a fact, others think how you behave is showing a rude and arrogant lack of respect by not giving some proof that what you say is a point of argument.

I do think some of the problems with this board are that it is called "News and politics". That seems to fall somewhere between chat - Is the Duke of Edinburgh okay? - and political debate. I don't have an answer but it may help to see the challange clearly.

growstuff he got a bigger vote share than Tony Blair when he was elected.

I see that you have adopted “The Americanism” We lost, but really we won

Boris Johnson and the Conservatives have been elected with a majority of parliamentary seats, but not the majority of those who voted.

… and the Manchester and Liverpool bubbles!

Opal It's against GN rules to ask that kind of question.

Grany are you another poster in disguise? You know, the poster who hasn't been seen on here since the election results? Just wondering ...........

JC may be trending on twitter (not in my time line though) but he did not win the election.

Outside the "London Bubble" the electorate did not trust him or his parties policies.

Boris Johnson and the Conservatives have been elected with a majority.

#OhJeremyCorbyn is trending on Twitter no 1

The singing #OhJeremyCorbyn at the New Years celebrations You don't get any other politition held in such high regard and respect as this.

This socialist movement is not going away we have all been inspired to fight for more fairer society and hold the big fat liar Johnson to account.

You could have asked her what her own opinion is Beckett.

All in the spirit of the New Year and kindness and understanding.

GGmk3 Probably from reading the comments on GN! My post was made because I like to read someones own opinion, not the recycled views of someone else. Almost all of Grany's posts are things he/she has copied from Twitter.

Well, I'm sure she'll be back to explain (maybe, one day ).

ladymuck I don't understand how the "lefties" have had their way. The UK has had a Conservative government for ten years and many people would claim that the previous Labour government wasn't really "leftie".

Me neither growstuff I thought the Conservatives had been in power for what seems like a lifetime. I can only see two reasons why someone might say this.

1) Ladymuck considers the Conservatives left-wing which is quite frightening if that is what people are thinking or

2)This is a dream and we will all wake up with things going back to normal again.

Grany Do you get all your opinions from Twitter - or do you sometimes actually think for yourself?

I wonder where you get your attitude and rudeness from Beckett?

Oh well done London!! There are some of us in the North who are still socialist as well. Let's have a Red 2020!!!
And thank goodness for Corbyn who knows what principles are. Equality, Peace and Goodwill to all.

Grany's link doesn't work.

It wasn't about the General Election, but a council election.

This is the full story from the BBC:

"An election result which saw the wrong person elected as a councillor has been overturned by the High Court.
Highworth, in Wiltshire, has fewer than 7,000 registered voters but more than 40,000 ballots were counted after the town council election in May.
The error led to Tory candidate Pauline Webster being declared a winner instead of independent candidate Kim Barber and sparked a legal challenge and recount.
Mr Justice Knowles said the "miscount was recognised and corrected".
Highworth, near Swindon, had a voting population of 6,408 before the 2 May poll and only 2,477 ballot papers were issued.
But at the count, 41,939 votes were counted with each of the 10 Conservative candidates polling more than 3,000 votes.
A high court electoral petition was lodged by independent candidate Ken Smith, who argued block votes cast in favour of all the Conservative candidates had been counted for each of them, rather than split between them.
'Unsettling time'
A recount was held resulting in thousands of votes being stripped from Tory candidates.
As a result Ms Webster, who received 727 votes, has had to make way for Ms Barber, who received 863 votes.
Swindon Borough Council admitted it made a mistake but said it was pleased the High Court had "ratified the recounted town council election results".
"It brings to an end what has been an unsettling time for candidates and councillors in Highworth," the council said.
"We have carried out a thorough lessons learned exercise in the wake of May's local elections to ensure this does not happen again."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-49611803