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Rough sleeper gives birth to twins outside wealthiest Cambridge college

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GagaJo Thu 26-Dec-19 19:35:15

Rough sleeper gives birth to twins outside wealthiest Cambridge college. Woman delivered premature babies in front of Trinity College on Monday

A homeless woman gave birth to premature twins while sleeping rough outside Cambridge University’s wealthiest college.

The woman, believed to be about 30, gave birth outside Trinity College. She was helped by members of the public, who called an ambulance, according to reports.

A witness told Cambridge News she had seen the new mother and her two children wrapped up in blankets inside ambulances when she cycled past at about 7.15am on Monday.

“They were all in the ambulances by the time I cycled past,” she said. “My workmate was first on the scene, and luckily Sainsbury’s was open early that morning and she ran in there for help.

“I’m hoping she gets given somewhere to live and the babies are ok. With what people are doing right now with Corbyn’s Christmas Challenge [a social media fundraising effort in response to Labour’s election defeat] what happened is very relevant to many people.”

Is rough sleeping getting worse?

The government claims rough sleeping in England fell for the first time in eight years in 2018, from 4,751 in 2017 to 4,677. But the body that oversees the quality of official statistics in the UK has said the number should not be trusted after 10% of councils changed their counting methods. Rough sleeping in London has hit a record high, with an 18% rise in 2018-19.

The numbers of people sleeping rough across Scotland have also risen, with 2,682 people reported as having slept rough on at least one occasion.

Shelter, whose figures include rough sleepers and people in temporary accommodation, estimate that overall around 320,000 people are homeless in Britain.

What’s being done about rough sleeping?

The government’s Homelessness Reduction Act 2017, which places new duties on state institutions to intervene earlier to prevent homelessness has been in force for more than a year, but two thirds of councils have warned they cannot afford to comply with it. In 2018, James Brokenshire, the housing secretary, announced a one-off £30m funding pot for immediate support for councils to tackle rough sleeping.

How does the law treat rough sleepers?

Rough sleeping and begging are illegal in England and Wales under the Vagrancy Act 1824, which makes ‘wandering abroad and lodging in any barn or outhouse, or in any deserted or unoccupied building, or in the open air, or under a tent, or in any cart or wagon, and not giving a good account of himself or herself’ liable to a £1,000 fine. Leading homelessness charities, police and politicians have called on the government to scrap the law.

Since 2014, councils have increasingly used public space protection orders to issue £100 fines. The number of homeless camps forcibly removed by councils across the UK has more than trebled in five years, figures show, prompting campaigners to warn that the rough sleeping crisis is out of control and has become an entrenched part of life in the country.

Is austerity a factor in homelessness?

A Labour party analysis has claimed that local government funding cuts are disproportionately hitting areas that have the highest numbers of deaths among homeless people. Nine of the 10 councils with the highest numbers of homeless deaths in England and Wales between 2013 and 2017 have had cuts of more than three times the national average of £254 for every household.

What are the health impacts of rough sleeping?

A study of more than 900 homeless patients at a specialist healthcare centre in the West Midlands found that they were 60 times more likely to visit A&E in a year than the general population in England.

Homeless people were more likely to have a range of medical conditions than the general population. While only 0.9% of the general population are on the register for severe mental health problems, the proportion was more than seven times higher for homeless people, at 6.5%.

Just over 13% of homeless men have a substance dependence, compared with 4.3% of men in the general population. For women the figures were 16.5% and 1.9% respectively. In addition, more than a fifth of homeless people have an alcohol dependence, compared with 1.4% of the general population. Hepatitis C was also more prevalent among homeless people.

Sarah Marsh, Rajeev Syal and Patrick Greenfield

East of England ambulance service told Cambridge News that paramedics went to the scene just before 7am on Monday. The woman and her children were taken to Rosie hospital, a specialist maternity hospital on the outskirts of Cambridge.

Research by the Guardian last year identified Trinity as the wealthiest of all the colleges in both Oxford and Cambridge Universities, with published assets at the time of £1.3bn.

A crowdfunding campaign set up to raise money for the woman decried Cambridge as a place of “extraordinary inequality”. Jess Agar, who started the fundraiser, wrote: “Imagine giving birth alone on the pavement, in the shadow of the richest college in Cambridge.

“Whether we are religious or not, many of us will be familiar with the Christmas story of a mother who gave birth to her child in poverty, seeking refuge in a stable. This is the reality for many people living on the streets.”

Contributors have so far donated more than £9,000.

uk.yahoo.com/news/rough-sleeper-gives-birth-twins-144402965.html

Iam64 Sat 28-Dec-19 09:23:16

165% rise in homelessness since 2010, according to the government's own statistics. That isn't down to immigration is it? It's down to government policies. Austerity devastated all public services, including housing, health, drug/alcohol treatment centres, mental health services, police. The list is endless, as is the increase in homelessness.
That's the issue Mr Johnsons' government has to address. The fact that the previous 9 years of Conservative government has caused such devastation to our country.
Chewbacca's comment about Manchester City centre and its homeless population is spot on. Walk through the city at 8am and every shop doorway has people sleeping there. A couple of years ago, former MUFC players allowed rough sleepers to use a hotel throughout the cold and wet winter months, that they'd bought with a view to refurb with work starting in the spring.
How anyone can say Homelessness isn't a political issue and can attempt to blame immigration for government policies is beyond me.

lemongrove Sat 28-Dec-19 09:11:10

That isn’t what Jennifer has said at all.....she was pointing out that what you see particularly in tourist towns isn’t always painting a true picture.
Certainly in my nearest tourist town, what she says is true,
A large number come in just go fleece tourists, but there are also a number of real homeless here, many with drug addictions sadly.
Drugs are the curse of modern society worldwide.

growstuff Sat 28-Dec-19 09:04:20

The above post is why I'm uncomfortable about this case being used as political fodder. Everyone has anecdotes which excuse any genuine concern for the reality of homelessness. How do you know these people aren't homeless in Slough?

A little more has emerged about the case of the woman who gave birth to twins in Cambridge:
www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/homeless-woman-council-housing-cambridge-17480914?fbclid=IwAR343WLWS-wxYDGXUEI6bJQTP7_LAit4uDEzETPt4pwsOQaZkJF_YaEbN_4

If the council is being truthful (and I don't have any reason to believe it isn't), the woman and her partner were offered housing, but for some reason or other, didn't use it. People will read that and the judgmental will think that it was her own fault that she was homeless and forget about the real underlying problems of homelessness. They'll use that as yet another anecdote.

If anybody wants to understand the problems of housing shortage and some suggestions for improving it, without resorting to accusations of excess immigration or fraudulent homeless beggars, I recommend this book:

www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Truths-chronic-shortage-happened/dp/1785904698?tag=gransnetforum-21

It's still only available in hardbook, so expensive. Maybe the Kindle or library edition will be cheaper. BTW Liam Halligan writes for the Telegraph, so not a "leftie".

suzied Sat 28-Dec-19 08:52:26

They are all wealthy with comfortable homes so no need to worry then eh?

JenniferEccles Sat 28-Dec-19 08:47:14

Whilst I accept that there are some genuinely homeless people it’s important to remember that’s not the whole story.

In many towns, particularly tourist ones like Windsor the ‘homeless’ are anything but.

These people live in Slough, travel into Windsor, set up with all the usual homeless paraphernalia, then come the evening they get a taxi back home.

Apparently it’s a very lucrative business with some raking in over £200 per day from well meaning but gullible tourists.

growstuff Sat 28-Dec-19 08:01:19

Homelessness isn't just the result of a supply/demand issue. London is a classic example. Parts of London have high numbers of unoccupied housing because property has become a commodity and an investment. It's the same in some other parts of the country.

Building more social housing would certainly alleviate shortages for some people. Not replacing the council houses which were sold and leaving rental properties to the market has pushed up prices at a time when incomes have been more or less stagnant.

However, it's a much more complex issue than that and it's far too early in the day for me to begin explaining, especially when people are fixed on the idea that a shortage of housing is caused by immigrants. The underlying problems are people hoarding land, unwillingness of people to have new building near them and planners who are influenced by politics.

In any case, real homelessness isn't directly caused by a shortage of housing. It's caused by the inability of individuals to afford rents. There are many instances of people in work still not being able to afford a single room/bedsit in the areas where they work.

Private letting agents have a minimum income threshold before they will allow a private let. They also charge exorbitant deposits and fees (despite recent law changes), which many people on low incomes can quite simply not afford.

The Local Housing Allowance component of Universal Credit is inadequate for even the lowest rents in many parts of the country.

When people are vulnerable for a number of reasons, including domestic abuse, relationship breakdown, lack of family support, unemployment or irregular employment/low pay, illness (physical or mental), they often suffer real financial difficulties and are in no state to cope with the problems. Sometimes substance abuse precedes homelessness, but often the precarious lives some people live leads to drugs and alcohol as a way of trying to deaden the experiences.

There are thousands of homes in the UK which have been empty for more than ten years. Unfortunately, they're in the wrong places. There's no investment potential in them for private developers and they're often in places where there is little work.

GagaJo Sat 28-Dec-19 07:28:53

Chestnut, NICE. Racism/anti immigration slipped in. Well done!

Chestnut Fri 27-Dec-19 23:13:27

trisher: if we are not building enough social housing if we do not provide the help and assistance people need then our government is failing.
Could the shortage of homes and increase in homelessness have anything to do with there being 5 million more people in the country than there were 20 years ago? That's 5 million more people needing homes. I just wonder where they were all supposed to live.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 27-Dec-19 22:50:18

No further comment.

I think you just did.

Callistemon Fri 27-Dec-19 22:49:33

They need to take it out on to the streets or take it to hostels as they do in other towns and cities.

Grammaretto Fri 27-Dec-19 22:39:50

I am frustrated by the inability to match the over abundance of offers of clothes and food with the needy.
In our town fb page a photo on Christmas eve showed a church hall full of donated fresh food free for anyone to take. The homeless and rough sleepers don't have internet access so what was the purpose of showing all this food which will end up in landfill.
Same with clothes.

lemongrove Fri 27-Dec-19 22:32:58

No further comment.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 27-Dec-19 22:31:12

Some posters are determined to deliberately be obtuse, or..... Maybe they simply don’t understand what politicised means.

Making petty personal remarks doesn't suddenly turn it into even a half decent argument LG. You could have made it explain your thinking. The way you write it leads others to others simply reading it as the thinking of someone with a sense of entitlement. In this case entitled to be believed when it doesn't actually say anything. I think everyone might use it differently but if it were me I might explain that "Unfortunately so many cases of homelessness are used in a deeply politicised way. The left use it to show that there is little sense of equality and even less of a helping hand after nine years of Tory government while the right use it to show "these people" that they have no respect for them and that they blame them directly for their ills and believe that, if they wanted to they could sort themselves out. After all there is no such thing as society."

Other people might think and articulate a different interpretation but your post just left it hanging with no explanation of what you mean.

Posting in that way comes over as is someone who feels they are so right that anyone as clever/sensible as they are would agree so no explanation is required.

trisher Fri 27-Dec-19 21:46:23

I can't see how homelessness can be anything but a political issue. It doesn't matter what the cause is, mental health, drug addiction or any other factor. If there is not enough provision of services to deal with these matters, if we are not building enough social housing if we do not provide the help and assistance people need then our government is failing. And that's political!!!

Yehbutnobut Fri 27-Dec-19 21:30:55

No, we are all too stupid to understand words of more than two syllables lemon

lemongrove Fri 27-Dec-19 21:29:23

I really think gaga that when you go to China you should report back to us on how well things work there, including homelessness and how the kindly authorities there deal with it.

lemongrove Fri 27-Dec-19 21:26:49

Or neither?!
Some posters are determined to deliberately be obtuse, or.....
Maybe they simply don’t understand what politicised means.

Yehbutnobut Fri 27-Dec-19 21:23:09

Or both?

GagaJo Fri 27-Dec-19 21:16:24

GracesGranMK3, I think it means, don't point out the homeless because they spoil my pink washing of the government.

OR maybe it means I don't care about the homeless. They're all druggies, alcoholics or too lazy to get a job.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 27-Dec-19 20:08:58

Unfortunately so many cases of homelessness are used in a deeply politicised way.

What does that actually mean? Absolutely nothing as far as I can see.

GagaJo Fri 27-Dec-19 19:29:54

TerriBull Fri 27-Dec-19 08:35:16
Regarding the comparison between the NHS and Spanish healthcare, Spanish hospitals do not provide translators for foreign nationals who have rudimentary or virtually no Spanish, the onus is on them to be accompanied by a Spanish speaker. The NHS on the other hand provides interpreters for a myriad of languages at significant cost.

There is no need for translators in Spanish hospitals. They ALL speak outstanding English. Less helpful if you're not British of course, but for us when we lived there, NEVER a problem.

lemongrove Fri 27-Dec-19 19:06:50

Unfortunately so many cases of homelessness are used in a deeply politicised way.
The reasons for it are many and varied, mental health in the past was a common reason and extremely sad.Drugs can play a big part too, and the common break up of families with divorce.
I hope the new government will try to get to grips with it, there won’t be a quick fix it will take years and years but must be started soon.

lemongrove Fri 27-Dec-19 19:00:28

My post saying quite politely that I won’t react to any posts by a certain poster was deleted.There was no ‘personal attack’ whatsoever.
I am at a complete loss to understand why HQ would delete it, when some awful posts ( really awful in some cases) don’t make them turn a hair.
Hmmmm.

Barmeyoldbat Fri 27-Dec-19 18:42:13

Great news about the giving fund, people are so generous. It now means she will be able give her babies a home and provide for them while she gets back on her feet.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 27-Dec-19 15:40:06

There has been a “just-giving” fund set up for her and her babies, it is already over £20,00.