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Danger man Trump strikes again

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BlueBelle Fri 03-Jan-20 08:33:55

Two days into the New Year and Trump sets the whole of world peace into jeopardy There will be huge repercussions

GrannyGravy13 Sat 04-Jan-20 22:22:48

jura2 our AC was deployed in Iraq twice, at the beginning and also at the end.

Some posters here experience things others read about things.

Chewbacca Sat 04-Jan-20 22:20:35

It wasn't growstuff's post that I found distasteful jura. It was yours.

merlotgran Sat 04-Jan-20 22:20:29

Everyone is concerned.

jura2 Sat 04-Jan-20 22:16:35

how is growstuff insulting anyone- totally the opposite- showing great concern for them.

Was it hysteria when people were so concerned about being dragged into the Irak war - and what happened to our poor men and women?

lemongrove Sat 04-Jan-20 22:11:42

Well said Chewbacca ??
There won’t be a ‘war’.....the leaders in Iran aren’t stupid and won’t risk a war with the US.
There will be some terrorist attacks in whichever country they find the easiest targets no doubt.
GG13 yes, hysteria and hyperbole on GN ( the two haitches)

merlotgran Sat 04-Jan-20 22:11:23

growstuff You are insulting young people who choose a career in the armed forces. It's not just 'joining up'. That's a very outdated view.

jura2 Sat 04-Jan-20 22:05:22

Indeed growstuff. But I was talking about all our children and grandchildren, not 'just' those in the forces. This is a really dangerous situation for the whole world.

Chewbacca Sat 04-Jan-20 22:04:40

do you have c and GC in the forces btw?

What a distasteful comment to make in view of the current situation. Those of us who do have loved ones in the armed forces are acutely aware of the constant danger they are in and we worry about them 24/7/365. We also know that, without them, we wouldn't have the security that we currently have. So please, stop with your cheap, point scoring jibes and show some respect for the families of the men and women who put their own lives at risk for all of us. angry

Urmstongran Sat 04-Jan-20 21:58:41

Thank you for that timely validation GG13 much appreciated.
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growstuff Sat 04-Jan-20 21:58:26

Why's it distasteful? I wouldn't be happy for any young person in my family to join up and be sent off to a pointless war, caused by somebody sitting in his holiday home in Florida.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 04-Jan-20 21:48:12

jura2 I have AC in the forces and would be happy for GC to “join up”

Hysterics and hyperbole is endemic on GN political threads

Urmstongran Sat 04-Jan-20 21:44:27

No I don’t jura. Your insinuation however is distasteful.

b1zzle Sat 04-Jan-20 21:33:54

You ask, 'What was he thinking?' He doesn't think!

jura2 Sat 04-Jan-20 21:30:14

...and you are prepared for innocents and our children and grandchildren to pay ...

do you have c and GC in the forces btw?

Urmstongran Sat 04-Jan-20 21:16:44

Yep, I get that trisher but placatory political bribes haven’t cut the mustard in the end here have they? Iran pushed their luck. Maybe they thought Trump would play ball like Obama.

Urmstongran Sat 04-Jan-20 21:14:09

I do realise both points growstuff but thank you.
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trisher Sat 04-Jan-20 20:46:35

Urmstongran Obama gave pallet loads of dollars to Iran to keep them sweet. It rarely pays to suck up to bullies.
One of the conventions used and respected in the ME is bribery, it keeps the whole system running at every level. Obama was probaby recognsed as just using the system.

growstuff Sat 04-Jan-20 20:44:31

The fact is Urmstongran is that you have no more of a clue about what will happen than any of us do.

Hopefully, Johnson is taking some advice from the Foreign Office and security services and is actually listening.

BTW The "debacle" over Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is ongoing.

Urmstongran Sat 04-Jan-20 19:59:03

I’m probably being naive again (just as jura she knows me well!?) but as ever the optimist, I don’t think this will be WW3. Tit for tat retaliation I expect, maybe escalating, but targeted responses.

I wonder if Boris is keeping a low profile on all this since that debacle over the Iranian woman (sorry can’t recall her name ? Nazanin) jailed by the Iranians? He’s probably been advised that ‘less is more’ right now.

growstuff Sat 04-Jan-20 19:39:19

I agree 100% maddyone. I glanced at the newspaper headlines in Tesco and it would appear we're being prepped for war. On of them (Daily Mail or Express) had something about being braced for war, as though it's inevitable. The spin is that Iran was the aggressor. I'd like to think we're the "adult in the playground", but I'm not optimistic.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 04-Jan-20 19:26:44

I just despair of Trump I think he must have a brain missing. He just went ahead and now expects us and Europe to back him, he didn't discuss it with us first.

At least JC has condemned his actions, where is good old Boris in all this and what does he think.

nanaK54 Sat 04-Jan-20 19:10:42

GrandmaTrisha flowers

maddyone Sat 04-Jan-20 18:46:41

Thanks for that link growstuff, to my mind this situation is beyond frightening. We should not be goaded into taking part in a war. We’ve had enough that already. America didn’t join in WW2 until they were attacked on their own soil, despite Britain repeatedly asking for help and support. It then took us until 2006 to repay the USA for the arms we bought from them. No favours for friends there then.
I hope and pray that we don’t join in, this is America’s situation.

growstuff Sat 04-Jan-20 18:31:55

They were driving a Chevrolet because the US needs export markets and the Chevrolet factory will have made a profit and employed workers.

growstuff Sat 04-Jan-20 18:30:17

Don't fall for having hatred whipped up Urmstongran.

I doubt if my own children will be conscripted, but somebody else's children might very well be sent off to a war which isn't of our making - and not come back.