Danger man Trump strikes again

Are you sort of enjoying this UG?

A good day? Caught with their pants down....Iran made their bed.

It truly is quite unbelievable.

It might look like some sort of video game but they are humans. The world is teetering on the brink.

So this guy was where he claimed he was not, with people he claimed to not know, who just happened to be starting stuff in Iraq which they denied.

Killing them all together on Iraqi soil pretty much blows that alibi.

Iran got caught with their pants down doing what they always seem to get away with. Good day for the world.

I just Googled ‘why does Iran hate US’ and Wikipedia came up with a whole screed on tensions between Iran and Iraq ... starting in 1856.

I didn’t have the stamina to read on.

This quote from that article is horrifying
The Pentagon "wasn't so horrified by Iraq's use of gas," said one veteran of the program. "It was just another way of killing people -- whether with a bullet or phosgene, it didn't make any difference," he said
so much for international agreements..

Timing is strange, other plans to remove have not been concluded, why now?

Actually this has set me looking at the info available. The BBC's information n US Iran relations makes absolutely no mention of the Iran-Iraq war. I did find this for anyone interested in how things have happened. It is an appalling condemnation of the US. Thousands of young Iranians died as the result of chemical weapons www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/169/36397.html

Audacious, what will be the retaliations?

As a slight aside, but relevant to Trisher's informative post above, I note how the West gets hot under the collar about Iran, laying the blame for terrorist inspiration and outrages at their door where possible, but we are all happy to turn away when we see what the Saudis are doing to others, generally with weapons sold by the west. Anyone who thinks that getting rid of this general will defuse the situation is seriously deluded; he will be replaced immediately with any one of many keen to avenge his assassination.

Thanks trisher it’s always good to hear an alternative viewpoint.
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Urmstongran I really don't know where you get your information from about Iran but a little balance might help. There are thousands of Iranians living and studying in the UK they are not terrorists. I have one friend who lived there for a short while and found the peple very welcoming. I have another friend who has just returned from a holiday in Iran and described it as the best and most amazing place she had ever visited and was welcomed everywhere. Do the Iranians hate the Americans? Well yes they do and with just cause. It was America that placed and supported the Shah of Iran. It was America that financed and supported Saddam Hussein and supplied him with the chemical weapons which he used to kill thousands of Iranians in the Iran-Iraq war. If it is a hot-bed of terrorism (and that's debatable most terrorism is financed by SaudiArabia and they don't like Iran) it is the direct result of US interference.

Oh sorry. I misread your post jura thought you were implying something else.

jura there might (or might not) have been a spate of schoolchildren posting on GN during the holidays but I think JE has been posting for some time.

No Jennifereccles ''A lot of people though automatically condemn Donald Trump regardless which is very silly.''

'silly' really, what a word to use in such a dangerous situation. Trump has shown what kind of man he is, through his words and his actions.

I can assure you that it is a lot 'sillier' to trust him on this

Haven’t we been here before? Excuses to invade Iraq. Anti Saadam propaganda. Justification which were later found to be myths.

Only problem Iran has the means to fight back.

GG13 many nasty men throughout the world have killed thousands of innocent people. Trump’s big buddy in North Korea for a start.

And as for these ‘reports’ - sounds very much like the WMD lies that triggered the invasion of Iraq.

Trump is looking to deflect attention away from his problems at home.

Iran has had an extensive history of provocative action in the Middle East , mainly focused on its neighbours but more recently on the West. - to which the reaction has been forbearance and diplomatic regrets.

The US has finally decided that turning the other cheek has only encouraged the ayatollahs and has responded with a surgical strike against one of the primary individual protagonists.

A very clear message has been delivered.

Suleimani has killed hundreds of innocent people, he was planning an attack on Americans according to surveillance agencies.

Trump was doomed if he knowingly let Americans get killed and doomed if he used a preemptive strike.

(I am not a Trump fan)

Regardless of what?

This was being discussed on the Jeremy Vine show a bit earlier.

He had two opposing views so it was interesting to hear both sides of the rights or wrongs of the action.

A lot of people though automatically condemn Donald Trump regardless which is very silly.

I think much of the world would disagree that Trump’s action is not stupid.

Trumps actions are not stupid but he will be very stupid indeed if he brags about it.

This is to deflect attention from the bad publicity attending his impeachment and forthcoming trial. His gormless supporters will be cheering and waving the flag.

I do! He was like Rommel or Patten in WW2 which is why the Iranians are crying and have declared 3 days of mourning.

Trump is stupid as he does not know the lessons of history. The first world war was brought about through escalation of violence.

Trump's warning against future aggression is okay. But this is not a warning it's a big big thing like as if Iran had sent a secret agent who killed the president of the USA . Urmstongran, you don't understand how important General Suleimani was.

The Big Question: What was he doing in Iraq ?
Those countries hate each other.