Danger man Trump strikes again

There are just too many ignorant and ambitious fools in charge of armies, weapons and nuclear weapons at the moment. Let's hope you are right - anyone is not concerned is living in cuckoo land (and NO, cuckoos are NOT Swiss)

jura2
The US will not be bombing Iran. If, and I repeat if, there are targets or people the US want to take out, it will be done by drones.

MerylStreep- we have not left yet- and certainly not left with NO Deal ... yet.

We have had stressful weeks as Brexit is already affecting us personally. First the uncertainty of exchange rates- as our only income is in Sterling. But in last couple of weeks- we find that we will be covered by health insurance in Switzerland and UK - but no longer any cover for rest of EU, including France on our doorstep. That means no more going shopping or walking, skiing in nearby France, no more driving to UK, no cover when we go to Italy, etc. We can't get Travel Insurance from UK as we are not residents- can't get cover from here as it doesn't exist (Swiss residents are covered in EU by their health insurance- from which we are exempt). And our Insurer is now refusing to renew our insurance for our UK flat- as they don't want to insure owners living in EU, due to Brexit.

Despite promises by Gove and others- Brits in EU are finding themselves in dire straigths through NO fault of their own, and despite very careful and informed planning. Yes, we do live on tenderhooks at the moment.

Chewbacca ??????????

Callistemon, where did I say I worried more about Iranian children than others- or indeed my grandchildren. I said 'first' because they are, have been and will be, the first victims of USA bombs.

Possibly because more children have been killed as the result of western interference in the Middle East over the years than any where else Callistemon If you could explain to me how any of the chldren in Iran, Iraq or Syria will be safer as a result of the killing of General Suliemon I would be very grateful.

jura Why would you be more worried about Iranian children rhan other children?

How many children had been killed by Soleimani? Did you weep for them? I did.
They are apparently celebrating in Idlib where many took refuge. Not all rebels belong to ISIS and the children there are innocents too.

You're right MerylStreep; most of us are very concerned about the ramifications of Trump's stupidity but the continual hysterical predictions of doom and disaster, of things that we have no personal control of, are actually counter productive and very wearing. The whole world is on tenterhooks wondering how this will pan out and I can't see how running around declaring that a world war will ensue is helping anyone. Let's hope world leaders have a more measured approach than some GN members are currently displaying.

No wonder there are so many children being prescribed antidepressants if they overhear adults talking idiotically about WW3.

For goodness sake stop all this over reacting and scaremongering.

jura2
More doom laden predictions from you. Just the same as when the referendum was announced. You predicted then that the planes would stop flying and the ferries would stop running.

We aren't teetering on the brink of WWIII despite the fact that people all around the globe are at odds with each other-

An all out nuclear war would be possible but not likely- Crazy as our leaders seem they want to live to enjoy the wealth they've accumulated at our cost, at our loss-

However, I wouldn't rule out nuclear strikes altogether- Specifically in the US- And the middle east- North Korea a long shot but also possible- But again specifically between NK and the US-

The US government has consistently stressed that it cannot guarantee prevention of a nuclear strike state side and directs us to this site: www.ready.gov/nuclear-explosion

The US government struggles with natural disasters when they occur, especially now that they are increasing and frequent, impacting commuties, disrupting business, distribution and agriculture-

As usual, it would be up to the people to "be prepared-" And help each other out-

We’re not teetering on the edge of WW3 now are we jura? We all know there are likely to be repercussions from Iran, but there’s no need for hysteria. When I first heard about the death of Soleimani I said I was afraid of what might happen next. It seems that the response will be Iranian terrorism from what I’ve seen/read. I’m still afraid that a ME war will break out as well.
I said in an earlier post that the Iranians I have worked with and that I know are all perfectly ordinary and pleasant people. I still hold that view, but having seen the newsreels of people in Iran attending the funeral of Soleimani, of them burning the American flag, of them chanting ‘Death to America’ I’m afraid I am finding my opinions changing. I don’t know what will happen next, none of us do, we are all speculating. I’m afraid of what will happen, but it won’t be WW3.

Urmstongran ''Oh jura FGS can’t we even have a pleasant discussion without links & evidence any more? Why so tetchy? It’s late. You’ll have to take my word for it - I read a lot and can’t recall the article.''

I am sorry- this was not intended as a personal attack. But NO, teetering on the edge of WW3, I will not 'take you word for it because you've read it somewhere'. 'Tetchy' - really? Like many I am so worried for the children of the world, Iran first. If you can't understand that - how can we possibly have a 'pleasant discussion'?

I think Israel's main worry is that if it does come to war they will be the first target for Iran. Who they believe does possess nuclear weapons.

The papers this morning all report disagreement between Trump and his Generals. There seems to be no support, other than from the idiot Pompeo, for his threat to target cultural sites. The Generals and other politicians realise this would be a war crime.
Netanyahu has said Israel wasn't a party to the decision to kill the Iranian General and disapproves of the action.

At the very least it was a contested move, even within the Pentagon and, as usual, premature and done with very little input - none at all from Congress. From foreignpolicy.com (rated slightly right and high for factual reporting):

In the hours leading up to the U.S. drone strike that killed Qassem Suleimani this past week, U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper kept President Donald Trump’s decision to target the commander of Iran’s powerful Quds Force closely held, cutting out some senior Pentagon leaders who are typically consulted on decisions of such magnitude.

Senior officials at the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff would ordinarily be part of the discussion, or at least briefed ahead of time, on such a momentous decision—one that the administrations of both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama considered and rejected. But in this case, many senior leaders found out after the fact, current and former officials familiar with the discussions told Foreign Policy.

"The usual approval process, the decision-making process, did not occur,” said one defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive issues.

Even among the small group of officials who were in the loop, there was dissent about whether killing Suleimani was a wise decision, said a former senior administration official with knowledge of the discussions. “The DoD was not all in agreement that killing the second most popular person in Iran at an international airport in Iraq was a good idea,” the former official said.

Today somebody shared a photo of long lines of troops shipping out from an airport in the nearest city- I wondered if the scene was similar all over the country ..

Oh jura FGS can’t we even have a pleasant discussion without links & evidence any more? Why so tetchy? It’s late. You’ll have to take my word for it - I read a lot and can’t recall the article.

Do you have clear evidence?

Oh yes, I've read it somewhere yesterday, so it must be true.

OMG.

No Iam64 I read somewhere yesterday that Trump’s generals, acting on intel gave him 4 options. He chose one.
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Urmstongran - I wish you were correct in believing that Trump is advised by his generals. I fear you aren't but that he directed the shooting of the Iranian General and that his own advisor were unable to hold him back.

Callistemon he's not stupid, that would have upset some people. Goodness knows what he says to DT on the quiet.

well he can't say too much he wants a trade deal

trisher
He could have said 'Congratulations, Don, you've done a grand job there! High five! Well done' if he was really concerned about the trade deal.

But he didn't thank goodness.

Aim to please ;)

You never let me down jura!
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