Danger man Trump strikes again

The Iranian Government shouting "Death to America" and an Iranian protestor stating that they would be happy for their children to become martyrs.

How, precisely, Opal, is Iran going to achieve 'death to America'?

Opal the protestors have been shouting 'Death to America' and burning the American flag for ages on a weekly basis.

Someone must have a good business there making flags to burn.

Well, can't see that Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe or Kylie Moore-Gilbert will be released any time soon which is extremely worrying.

A good holiday destination?
Hardly

jura

anyone who believes we are there to save anyone or help with human rights is just deluded
That was the sentence which was confusing.

I wasn't aware that we had troops training and helping in Iran.
We do have a few troops at the moment in Iraq who are training and helping the Iraqi and Kurdish Security Forces.

This thread moves so fast! That last post was in response to warchest cost-

That breaks down to about 24.00 a week-

Hardly a wild statement - have you watched the news tonight? The Iranian Government shouting "Death to America" and an Iranian protestor stating that they would be happy for their children to become martyrs. That is the kind of mentality you are dealing with. No-one has answered my earlier question - exactly how much provocation does the Western world have to take before we strike back? Trump's response was reasonable and proportionate and no civilians were injured, yet Iran is now threatening to increase its nuclear arsenal. Some of you are so quick to criticise Trump, why aren't you condemning Iran? They're not exactly perfect examples of peacekeepers and protectors of human rights, are they? Beggars belief really.

I honestly don't know MaizieD, but I'm hoping that whatever they've got in store, they keep to themselves. I'm hoping and praying that it won't escalate to us having to find out the hard way.

Yes, I know it was developing a nuclear capability. That was what the 2015 nuclear deal was about.

But does it now have a massive nuclear arsenal trained on the Western world? Such as to justify Opal's rather wild statement?

Does Iran have a massive arsenal of nuclear weapons trained on the West to wreak irreparable destruction? hmm
BBC news:

"Iran has declared it will no longer abide by any of the restrictions imposed by the 2015 nuclear deal."

"In a statement it said it would no longer observe limitations on its capacity for enrichment, the" "level of enrichment, the stock of enriched material, or research and development."

"The statement came after a meeting of the Iranian cabinet in Tehran".

Thanks Mr Trump. stupid dangerous man

I'm completely baffled by all this. What had Iran done to provoke such an extreme reaction from Trump? Wasn't it he who refused to implement the nuclear treaty with Iran that had been brokered under Obama? And who has been niggling away at them ever since?

As for the Iranian regime and its ilk being more of a menace to the world than any Western leaders.. it's laughable. Does Iran have a massive arsenal of nuclear weapons trained on the West to wreak irreparable destruction?

Haven't we learned our lessons from the past? We have problems with the ME because we wouldn't leave them alone; couldn't resist the urge to meddle because the oil was so important to us. So we've created hatred and enmity and now propose to create a bit more?

Trump is a lunatic. FGS don't cheer him on...

First, the economic costs: According to estimates by the Costs of War project at Brown University’s Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, the war on terror has cost Americans a staggering $5.6 trillion since 2001, when the U.S. invaded Afghanistan.

$5.6 trillion. This figure includes not just the Pentagon’s war fund, but also future obligations such as social services for an ever-growing number of post-9/11 veterans.

It’s hard for most of us to even begin to grasp such an enormous number.

It means Americans spend $32 million per hour, according to a counter by the National Priorities Project at the Institute for Policy Studies.

Put another way: Since 2001, every American taxpayer has spent almost $24,000 on the wars — equal to the average down payment on a house, a new Honda Accord, or a year at a public university.

I talked about oil being the reason, and Calli replied 'where?...

or it becomes nonsense

Indeed it does. And it would have helped if you'd referred to the fact that you were talking about oil fields whilst the rest of us were talking about the military and Iran.

Been reading the DM again hey

The Iranian regime and its like is far more of a menace to the world than any of the Western leaders. Those of you blaming Trump need to take a long hard look at the Middle East - their leaders hate everything about the West and our freedoms, they are the enemy, not Trump.

If people ask questions, they should ask the poster by name and quote- or it becomes nonsense.

Was talking about new oil fields

I think here jura message jura2 Sun 05-Jan-20 18:58:21
The last line?

Where on earth did I say we have troops in Iran???

Agreed trisher.

If anyone posting on this thread can indicate to me how killing the General and condemning Iran will in anyway improve human rights there I will completely acknowledge that they know more. Until then I will retain my opinion that things were improving, that opening up to tourism is a positive, that women leading iniatives and promoting ideas is a good thing and that the way to change is not through demonising and attacking but by encouraging and inter-acting. It may be naive to think things can and do improve but it is a damn sight better than demonising a whole country.

I thought George W was bad but

What a menace to the world Trump is Urmstongran. Dangerous and stupid.

Callistemon, you're right, we don't currently have any military personnel based in Iran. The nearest are in Baghdad, Iraq and they're being advised to leave pdq.

Iran has placed an $80million bounty on Donald Trump's head and threatened to attack the White House in response to the president's warning that any strike on American interests in the region will bring massive retaliation.

Our relations with Iran had improved recently and that was a good thing, despite their oppressive regime.. I am now worried about the British and Australian women detainees incarcerated there.