Well done Lawrence Fox!

‘Have not given’ of course

Laurence Fox wouldn't be facing the same kind of criticism, if he'd actually put forward a coherent point of view rather than behaving like a spoilt toddler. His subsequent behaviour and tweets have confirmed to me that he really is out of order and should not have been invited on to QT as a guest with anything serious to say.

And what pray Chew do you know about ableism and disability discrimination ? .

As if I care Chew your posts have given one good reason to underpin your position.

I agree with you there though!

The amount of sheer ignorance and ableism on this thread is breathtaking.

I agreed with what JF said. I agree with many of the posters on this thread. I don't agree with you.

Eglantine Your argument about Laurence Fox's inability to sing is ridiculous and doesn't make suziewoozie ablest.

I can't sing, stand on one leg or roll my tongue (which most people can do), but I'm not disabled.

Yep Chewbacca, you've just about got the gist of it .

Is thst the best response you can manage Chewmas opposed your engaging with the issue? I suppose it must be. Never mind.

Eglantine suziewoozie is spot on. There is in law no such thing as a registered disability. There is no all-purpose definition. It depends what the person is not able to do and for what purpose.

Another sneering, patronising and condescending post. Is that your default setting for all of your posts when someone doesn't agree with you SuzieWuzie?

Opal I have only categorically stated that not being able to sing in tune is not a disability - stop lying about what I have stated

Chew I haven’t derailed the thread - some of us made the perfectly rational point that would it be acceptable if LF had said to a Jewish person or disabled person that he knew better than they did what constituted anti-semitism or ableism? The validity of his comments could not be discussed meaningfully without engaging with this wider context. I’m sorry if that’s too difficult for you to engage with. As for the clip, it’s all over Twitter along with others which amply demonstrate his complete absence of any musical talent whatsoever which failures is only compounded by him complete lack of awareness of such absence. So time taken to copy and paste said clip about 10secs

LF is s joke because he thinks he can categorically stare what is racist or not

And yet you think you can categorically state what is "disabled" or not? Hmm, double standards.

My point sooziewoozie is that you've managed to derail a discussion about racism by Googling YouTube for clips about the protagonists singing skills. Or lack off. And you then have the audacity to criticise another poster for having the inability to hold a reasoned, rational or informed discussion. As I said upthread.... ironic.

I thought he was DREADFUL

Chew and your point is?

You've got too much time on your hands!

For the sake of clarity, there is no such thing as a registered disability. LAs maintain voluntary registers for people who are blind/partially sighted or deaf/hearing impaired. The main benefit is making it easier to get a disabled persons railcard. There is no register for people who cannot sing in tune.

www.youtube.com/embed/BLkvtHwSyM4

If this isn’t a joke, it will do until a real joe comes along, LF is s joke because he thinks he can categorically stare what is racist or not. This utter lack of self awareness is demonstrated afresh and beautifully by his actually believing he can sing in tune. He is a talentless rather stupid person who is not disabled by his inability to sing in tune

growstuff I didn’t say I was registered disabled, I said I have a registered disability.

And because I, and others, cannot sing in tune, suziewoozie regards us as a joke. Not the disability. She didn’t say not being able to sing in tune is a joke. She said

He can’t even sing in tune. He (the person) really is a joke.

As I said, that really is ableism of the worst kind. Presumably suziewoozie can hear so regards those who can’t as a joke,

I didn't know that. I've been following his Twitter account off and on for the last couple of days and most of the stuff he's written just doesn't make sense or is truly bizarre.

growstuff that's what his dad did. Then spent 9 years in a religious community.

I think Fox's version of reverse racism is the same one that the BNP, UKIP and various white conspiracy theorist have used in the past.

PS. Having read some of his tweets over the last few days, I seriously think he's off his trolley or overdoing some hallucinogenic substances (or both).