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Well done Lawrence Fox!

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Ngaio1 Fri 17-Jan-20 17:10:05

What a truth! Racist remarks are racist what ever your colour!

Chestnut Mon 27-Jan-20 14:22:15

As I said trisher you look for racism in everything and accuse everyone of racism if they don't agree with your interpretations. You just want to keep stirring the pot and creating division even where there is none.
When you come up with statements like Crime and poverty are of course the natural state of people of colour then I wonder who is the racist here? I would never make such a comment.

maddyone Mon 27-Jan-20 14:13:47

He’s gorgeous isn’t he 3nanny6, but I was surprised that we weren’t allowed to see him till he went to Africa. Babies change after all, he won’t look the same in a few more months.
I think it sad that so many jump on the racism bandwagon. Meghan’s father has recently said that Meghan never suffered racism whilst growing up, and that the USA is far more racist than the UK in his opinion. Judging by my visits to the USA I’d say that is probably true.

3nanny6 Mon 27-Jan-20 13:38:01

I will make a comment and say I was glad Prince Harry got engaged and married to a mixed raced woman at last some different genes in the monarchy.

I was happy on the announcement of the baby and hoped things went well.
On the next level I was curious and waited for the birth of the baby and will not tell a lie I wanted to see the shade of skin colour , hair colour etc, of their new bundle of joy.
I know Prince Harry probably wanted protection for his son and all photos showed the baby very well covered.
The first real close up I saw was when they went to meet that bishop (cannot remember his name) and the baby was nothing more than I can describe but completely beautiful.
It is quite sad they felt they wanted to leave the U.K and I know a lot has been said and every story that can be dug out of the woodwork is coming out when we know that Harry is one of the most loved Royals but everyone complaining about Meghan is driving him further and further away.
I will miss seeing Archie growing up in the U.K. it is a loss to us.

By the way saying I was curious as to the new babies colour is not being racist as it was obvious he is not fully British blood and I for one could not give a flying flamingo.

Anniebach Mon 27-Jan-20 13:34:01

No crime and poverty in white British or white Americans?

trisher Mon 27-Jan-20 13:29:51

Chestnut really! A Blackamoor brooch as a recognition of her heritage??? Why not go the wholehog and turn up with a slave collar or one of those disgusting implements that were used to restrain and prevent slaves from moving or speaking?
Do you know I half thought GNers were just badly informed and not really racist but quite frankly every post makes me think they really are.
As I said anyone could have "exotic DNA" but if you are white it won't be mentioned. That's why it's racist.
Crime and poverty are of course the natural state of people of colour That' why it's racist.
Oh I give up. LF is simply a product of his class and upbringing. Quite what excuse those on GN have for their racism I don't know. Age or ignorance I suppose.

Chestnut Mon 27-Jan-20 13:14:34

You are reading racism into everything trisher. Why is it racist to tell the story of her family going from rags to riches? If they were a white family who had gone from abject poverty to the RF the story would be just as interesting.
'Exotic' DNA is not racist, if anything it's a compliment. You immediately see racism.
What happens on Twitter, and one person who may or may not be wearing a racist brooch hardly backs up your argument. How do you know that she wasn't wearing the brooch in recognition of MM's heritage? You can't know for sure.
This is all about what you and others like you read into everything. You are just looking for racism so you can stir the pot.

Anniebach Mon 27-Jan-20 13:10:26

I disagree, not racist. How does ‘crime and poverty’ equal
racism . Should her family tree not be mentioned ? Kate , Diana’s family tree were . Is ‘exotic DNA ‘ a definition of black ?

Harry couldn’t/ wouldn’t admit the truth , she is admired by
some because she refused to accept what went with the job of
being a working royal , republicans are hopeful she will
destroy the royal family.

She is criticised by some for being self centred and going on the celebrity route.

lucywinter Mon 27-Jan-20 13:06:09

I think Laurence Fox came across as a bullying thug.

And his new record is a dreadful dirge. And he can't sing.

Iam64 Mon 27-Jan-20 13:05:05

trisher, I’m absolutely with you on this but we are a minority. We are also wasting energy be attempting to list or detail racism as demonstrated by fox or newspapers, the DM the obvious example.

trisher Mon 27-Jan-20 12:47:01

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Anniebach Mon 27-Jan-20 12:11:46

Hell bells, ‘it was reported a conservative candidate said etc .in 1964 . 56 years ago , and reported ? In the newspapers?

Chestnut Mon 27-Jan-20 11:59:24

Exactly Anniebach but this is the core of the whole argument, those who say that any criticism of MM has a racist undertone. Most of us know it is because of her behaviour that the press has turned on her, nothing to do with her race.

Anniebach Mon 27-Jan-20 11:40:25

Which newspaper has printed racist comments about Megan
Markle ?

trisher Mon 27-Jan-20 11:34:16

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Anniebach Mon 27-Jan-20 11:26:32

The race card yet again.

Most of the royal family have been slated in the press, Megan
Markle got off lightly.

Charles , Phillip, Andrew, Edward, Camilla, Fergie, Anne, Kate,
Sophie,The Queen. Princess Michael, Beatrice, Eugenie

trisher Mon 27-Jan-20 11:16:52

Sorry easybee typo, finger slip, or something apologies to anyone affected
Some of us can tickingbird others are so far up their own ass they can't!

eazybee Mon 27-Jan-20 11:11:02

Trisher, you should take care.
I think when you refer to Prince Charles ' association with a sex offender you mean Peter Ball, not Peter Bull, a renowned actor.
Defamation of character.

Chestnut Mon 27-Jan-20 11:02:45

The point I'm making is that people get roasted in the press because of their behaviour not because of their gender or race.

tickingbird Mon 27-Jan-20 10:56:38

Trisher Kudos to you. Being to able to laugh at oneself is a positive attribute. Well done!

trisher Mon 27-Jan-20 10:53:25

Oh Chestnut are you really saying the treatment Prince Andrew has received for his very real paedophile connections is in any way equivalent to the treatment meeted out to MM? Or Boris who has been serially unfaithful and yet is presented as just a bit of a bad boy? Nothing about his Bullingdon money burning in front of the homeless during the election was there? As for Charles do you remember much about his connection with sex offender Peter Bull? I don't. They may get the occasional headline they don't get the sustained and unwarranted attention (even when they deserve it)

tickingbird Mon 27-Jan-20 10:49:42

Chestnut No I don’t believe the press have been racist toward MM. Maybe others have on social media etc. I also don’t believe the reason for her and Harry’s departure was down to negative press. It’s a convenient excuse in my opinion.

Chestnut Mon 27-Jan-20 10:35:31

So how do you explain when 'powerful white men' get roasted in the press? Charles and Andrew have both had their share, Trump and Boris have been torn to shreds. Where's the racism and misogyny there? You can't keep rolling out these excuses just because it's a woman.

trisher Mon 27-Jan-20 10:16:46

tickingbird grin

trisher Mon 27-Jan-20 10:15:42

Chestnut I think I did say that mysogyny and racism often go hand in hand and that the MSM is in the hands of powerful white men who use both. it means that of course other women are targeted but that women of colour present a double target.Neither of these things is acceptable but unfortunately both seem to flourish on GN.

Chestnut Mon 27-Jan-20 10:08:25

No-one has answered my question. I'm asking all those on this thread who believe that criticism of MM in the press is because of racism.
How do you explain all the press criticism aimed at the other female members of the RF in the past? Camilla and Fergie especially, although Kate was also vilified at one point. Was their skin colour the cause then? I don't think so. So please explain what the difference is between them being roasted in the press and MM.