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Poverty in the UK - disappearing according to Boris

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Nezumi65 Thu 23-Jan-20 22:45:27

And as for Johnson - he is clueless. And he probably despises a lot of the people who voted for him.

Nezumi65 Thu 23-Jan-20 22:44:38

Someone who has worked hard at school and gained qualifications has the right to a good wage and a high standard of living

Seriously? What an awful way to think. And I say that as someone who worked hard at school, went to Oxford and has never eared a great deal because I had a severely disabled son (& now work in an area related to disability).

TBH leaving aside my mega wealthy friends a lot of my well off friends learned a trade (& no doubt have worked hard over the years).

Why equate good wages to being something ‘deserved’ by those who have been born with an academic brain, or (like Johnson) been privileged enough to attend a school like Eton.

IMO the people who work with my son ‘deserve’ to get paid a lot more than many of the mega wealthy who work with my son. Some have few academic qualifications and some have degrees - Whatever - the fantastic (hard) work they do with him has been life changing for him (& is). What a pity some people don’t see the value in it.

Dollymac Thu 23-Jan-20 22:39:46

Ladymuck, how do you know that they are smoking, drinking and playing bingo? Do you have any stats , evidence, to support your claims?
How would you define poverty?
Working families are increasingly forced to claim benefits. The gig economy is thriving, although it's workers are not
Why do you think that 'less educated ' people have to accept a 'lower standard '?
I really struggle to understand your rationale

gillybob Thu 23-Jan-20 22:30:21

It bugs me when some people relate hard work to earnings .

In my very humble opinion, it is usually not the case.

Grandad1943 Thu 23-Jan-20 22:27:18

ladymuck, it is words and views such as you have used in your post @21:17 today that brought about the Russian revolution in 1917 and many other civil wars since that time. Would you therefore wish the same to befall the United Kindom so as to preserve your views?

You also sound and hold exactly the same views as a member who left the forum some weeks back and was always informing us of her wealth, her five privately and highly educated sons and her marriage to a very wealthy and successful Banker?

Of course, that was someone else.

ladymuck Thu 23-Jan-20 21:17:37

Just how do you define poverty? The wages people earn reflect their skills. Someone who has worked hard at school and gained qualifications has the right to a good wage and a high standard of living. A less well-educated person has to accept a lower standard.
The minimum wage should be enough to live on but without luxuries.
I live in an area of low wages but people are able to afford to smoke, drink and play bingo. That's not poverty in my book.

Dinahmo Thu 23-Jan-20 21:02:50

Yesterday on PMQs the the Tory ranks were ebullient over the PMs treatment of Corbyn who was on the attack over poverty. Johnson said that poverty had dimihished by 400,000. The Resolution Foundation's senior economic advisor struggled to find anything to back it up.

As you probably know, Greggs did well last year and have given their workers a £300 bonus. If they earn over £12,500 the rules relating to Universal Credit will see most of this taken away from them. A point that Johnson didn't understand. So we have a PM who is so wealthy that he cannot understand how the poorer people manage - not to live but just to exist. Some of them can't even do that.