M&H didn't let me down.

How absolutely horrible some people are. Pain, trauma, loss, money makes not a scrap of difference.

The man who threw the boy off the balcony was badly let down by social services & prob his local CCG . He should never have had his support package cut. Austerity related cuts lead to tragedy after tragedy. This time another family’s life was destroyed in the fall out. The issues in that case are far broader than MH service cuts. They usually just result in personal misery/loss of life.

ReadyMeals one prince and his wife are rasing awareness , the other prince decided saving the world was more interesting and got more front page coverage.

He cocked a snoop at the British public, the dramatic announcement that there would be no announcement followed by a request for the press to film him making the
announcement that he had previously announced there will
be no announcement.

Work that out ?

Jabberwok - one could be waiting a very long time for a place in NHS therapy, sadly. I guess that the one benefit of rich people going private is the less wealthy get an appointment sooner.

The kind of awareness the Princes and their wives are raising is helpful to people with affective disorders such as depression. But I wonder if the most damaging mental health problem for society in general are the delusional disorders such as psychosis. That's the sort of thing that caused the man to throw the little boy off the balcony at the art gallery, people pushing people under trains, mass shootings etc. The trend in western communities seems to be to help people who ask for help, but little is in place to monitor or control those who have no insight into their own psychoses.

Where did he say help and support from the great British public has been partially responsible for driving him away?

Of course trauma is trauma! Most people rely on the NHS for help, not the best that money can buy! Most people don't seek constant public pity and attention, most of all, most people don't seek to make colossal sums of money out of personal tragedy.

Exactly Annie! It all started with so much promise, and so much goodwill and affection from the british public and press, what could possibly go wrong?!!!!! People, have, over the years, been so supportive of both these Princes, Harry in particular, that to now be told that this support has somehow been partially responsible for driving him away from this country, is hurtful and bewildering to say the least! The fact that he seems willing to use the grief experienced by the death of his mother to make mega mega bucks is honestly quite obscene and unfathomable!

I was responding to Jabberwocky asking how children cope. I think it's so sad that we are comparing. Trauma is trauma.

Who does Greymar ?

They cope very badly and the trauma passes down the generations.

Jabber William, Kate and Harry started a charity
‘Heads Together’, they spoke of their grief and the grief of so many who have lost a parent .

Along comes Sparkle Markle, Harry goes to S.A. and we hear of his grief, now we hear of Harry’s grief and therapy in Miami . Whilst William and Kate still work
for ‘Heads Together’ for this country and they listen too

Totally agree with Annie! I wonder how the children of Syria etc manage to cope with the total wipe out of their family members? Children of the Hollacaust dito? Millions of children world wide lose parents, siblings and so on without the need, 20 odd years later to be making masses of money out of a tragedy. Beyond tacky! Just hope neither of these two set foot in this country again. Thank God for Prince William and Katherine, so different to whining whingeing Harry and his tinsel town wife!

I don't think H was surrounded by sycophants whilst he was in the military or in Africa.

Well I agree with that callistemon -although if they are going for the big business money (which makes sense in terms of generating large amounts of cash) then the ethics are always going to be dodgy in some area or another. Unfortunately there aren’t many banks of large corporates that put people before profit (maybe google? I don’t know they seem to value employees, not sure about their wider business practice or privacy values etc).

Nezumi I agree with much of what you say but I think they need to be careful that they do not get their names associated with unethical concerns and businessss in the pursuit of independence.
After all, they are supposedly an ethically minded couple.

Nezemi I didn’t need pointing in any direction , so point your finger else where.

No, they may not have heard of sub-prime mortgages, after all I doubt Harry knows the word mortgage or what it is.
But surely they or their advisors must have been aware of the controversies surrounding this firm?

If you are seeking charitable funds perhaps turning a blind eye is sometimes necessary?
I don't know

Callistemon
No disrespect to Megan and Harry but I doubt very much that either of these issues ( subprime mortgages & the Greek bailout) ever came close to them, as it didn't for many ☹️

It’s not really about charity- the ethics around allowing hedge funds etc to profit from NHS services needs to change dramatically. Organisations such a JP Morgan have the power to change things, but I doubt they’ll ever have the motivation.

I doubt Harry will make any difference at all, I doubt he even understands the issues for the average person with a severe mental health need, however, talking about mental health may be healthier - rather than the never talking about it approach of previous generations.

This is rather a side alley from people being vile about him though. I couldn’t really care less who he talks to or how he becomes financially independent. If it’s the first step to a smaller, working monarchy that would be a good thing.

In doing this he is hopefully separating his children from the crown so that they can have a real job and not have quite the same media intrusion as the York girls.

A friend's son worked for J P Morgan MerylStreep
He became astonishingly rich at a very young age in a very short time!
Presumably his work earning huge bonuses was totally woke and ethical.

However, the firm has attracted such descriptions as most corrupt?, unethical, cutthroat capitalist, unethical monstrosity
(Not my own words, you understand.)

However, if they do a bit for charity that makes it all OK.

I didn’t ask you. I said ‘if’ & I pointed you in the direction of an grassroots collective (for want of a better word) that is doing wonderful things highlighting things like people driving 800 miles to visit their child.

Nezumi do not , do not ever ask me if i genuinely give a damn .

Perhaps he could end up encouraging ethical spending whilst lining his pockets

I found it ironic that Megan and Harry chose to give a speech at an event hosted by JP Morgan.
For 2 people who keep professing their 'wokeness' they are obviously totally unaware that this is one of the banks who shafted the Greeks in the bailout deal ( but made money for the Germans) but also were very instrumental in the financial crash because of their reckless lending ( subprime mortgages)

Video here: vimeo.com/375509472