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M&H didn't let me down.

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ReadyMeals Fri 07-Feb-20 17:45:11

After the news about Bea and Edo's wedding venue this morning, I was having a quick scan to see what Harry would managed to newsbomb them with. Well it seems they scurried around a bit and finally got themselves into the evening news. Well done Harry and Meghan, don't get caught napping when you have family to compete with for publicity [roll eyes]

Nezumi65 Sat 08-Feb-20 11:04:32

children being treated in psychiatric hospitals miles away from their families

If you genuinely give a damn about this then you would be better off getting things like the Rightful Lives campaign into the news rather than sniping about Prince Harry.

Looks like he’ll be costing us less each year. And maybe talking to the likes of JP Morgan will help. Inpatient mental health care is generating millions of profit for American owned companies and hedge funds - perhaps he could end up encouraging ethical investing.

merlotgran Sat 08-Feb-20 10:54:53

That's exactly what I think though Nezumi as well as my follow up post about celebs eventually tiring of the subject. It may have come across as harsh but fame is fickle.

Harry grew up protected by courtiers and sycophants. He's never had to 'compete'. He's out there on his own now surrounded by sycophants who are only in it to make money - out of him.

He has never had to promote himself in order to survive financially. He's lucky to still have Duchy millions to fall back on but it may not last. Didn't the Queen say she would review the situation in a year?

Anniebach Sat 08-Feb-20 10:49:35

If they were not being financially supported by this country I
couldn’t care less if they want to save the world .

There are people in this country suffering from mental illnesses , children being treated in psychiatric hospitals miles away from their families , young men taking their lives is on the increase , yet we pay for this couples lifestyle and security in America.
America.

ReadyMeals Sat 08-Feb-20 10:48:33

I don't think anyone here would actually wish harm to come to M&H or be anything other than friendly and supportive to their faces if they met. It should be possible to debate the issues in an objective way - including speculating on the motives of the people involved, provided we all understand it is pure speculation. If this wasn't generally acceptable, most of the newspapers in the world would be banned.

Greymar Sat 08-Feb-20 10:48:18

But people are rude. Some swear, some hide behind a cloak of seemingly being polite but actually saying vile things.

Nezumi65 Sat 08-Feb-20 10:47:26

Someone who has a ‘genuine concern’ for Prince Harry doesn’t say: Making a cottage industry out of Diana's death and Harry's subsequent therapy - up to $1 million

merlotgran Sat 08-Feb-20 10:43:38

That's uncalled for Nezumi

Just because not everyone thinks the same as you there's no need to be rude.

Nezumi65 Sat 08-Feb-20 10:40:50

Genuine concern my backside. As for Diana - she had her own MH problems.

And exactly Jaycee. I’m not a royalist, but the vitriol aimed at Meghan (and now Harry) needs calling out for the nastiness it is. As someone who isn’t a Royalist I applaud them wanting to fund themselves. If that includes rich bankers paying to hear them speak the. I can’t really see the problem.

merlotgran Sat 08-Feb-20 10:29:21

What will happen when all these mega rich celebs tire of Harry's speeches about his mental health?

His carbon footprint will make a nonsense of any lectures about global warming and his obsession for privacy won't sit well with Meghan when people no longer care about her desire to change the world.

This is not a 'bashing' comment. It's a genuine concern.

I don't think Diana would have wanted this for him.

Anniebach Sat 08-Feb-20 10:25:49

Jaycee. Try practising what you preach

ReadyMeals Sat 08-Feb-20 10:21:39

Well I don't dislike Meghan. It's gradually being revealed that Harry does have some long-standing mental health problems, and I think it's likely that Meghan is simply concerned for him and wanting to get him in a position where he can get a break from the pressure, so she has made him see it's possible to do that. But it can't be denied that whether by a series of unfortunate coincidences or something else, there have been many times when the Sussex's news has come out at exactly the right time to clash with news from other royals. The fact that it's almost becoming predictable is worrying. Now, whether it's them, or someone else deciding to publish their news at the wrong times, is possible open to doubt. Could they simply have an incompetent press secretary?

Jaycee5 Sat 08-Feb-20 10:06:32

Anniebach I doubt that many people who dislike the spite on threads like this are 'Sussex devotees'. I'm not a royalist but I am anti bullying and find gratuitous abuse and nastiness unpleasant and think that it should be called out. There is too much of it and it seems to be getting worse.
She seemed to try very hard and nothing she could do was right. No human being should have had to bear the vitriol that she did in a new Country, a new job, in a new marriage with a toxic family in the background and pregnant or a new mother for much of it.
Try kindness. You might find it makes you feel better in yourself.

Anniebach Sat 08-Feb-20 09:55:55

I wouldn’t know,

Nezumi65 Sat 08-Feb-20 09:22:43

JP Morgan doesn’t have offices in Cardiff or Manchester.

How is it living life always assuming the worst of everyone?

Anniebach Sat 08-Feb-20 09:16:56

Miami more attractive a place than Manchester or Cardiff

Nezumi65 Sat 08-Feb-20 09:13:47

I suspect he’ll give talks internationally. hmm

Anniebach Sat 08-Feb-20 09:04:34

Could he not do the same in this country ? He takes the money from this country

Nezumi65 Sat 08-Feb-20 08:57:32

And actually as someone who often gets asked to share my story (actually my son’s story of professional cock ups leading to horror) you do it because you think you can change things for others. It takes a toll and it will on him. I have found that change rarely occurs, but professionals get to give themselves a big pat on the back for being ‘moved’ so I refuse most invitations these days.

It’s taken me years to come to the realisation that talking about it doesn’t change much. Ironically Prince Harry is on a situation where he might manage to effect some change - partly because he ISN’T talking to NHS/social services/CQC type bodies who are extremely resistant to change. He is taking to people who have the money to set up foundations, or appeal directly to the public & impact on public opinion in a way the rest of us cannot.

Shame people have to view it in such a nasty way.

Nezumi65 Sat 08-Feb-20 08:47:03

trading on the loss of his mother

What a nasty thing to say. Take a look at yourself.

ReadyMeals Sat 08-Feb-20 08:46:14

I posted this thread in response to a NEW news article in the mainstream press yesterday that I had just read. This is the news and politics section of Gransnet. Regardless of how unpleasant or unfair it might be to the two people who are the subject of the article, it is a perfectly valid thread to have here. Much more valid in fact than the nasty posts I have seen on threads or sections supposed to be offering support and sympathy for each other. One assumes that M&H at their ages are not members of Gransnet and therefore are not being hurt by my post in the way I have seen some of the angry people on this thread try to hurt their fellow gransnet members.

Anniebach Sat 08-Feb-20 08:45:14

If a poster gives her / his opinion on the Sussex pair which
the Sussex devotees disapprove of they can expect personal
verbal abuse and coarse language

eazybee Sat 08-Feb-20 08:45:01

In response to Iam64 and others; 'People' (me anyway) are not impressed by self-designated 'private citizens' attending public events and discussing highly personal family matters.
It appears (to me) that Prince Harry is aiming to support himself by trading on the loss of his mother, which will undoubtedly have repercussions for his father, brother, grandmother and other family members.
A poor speciman.
Faugh!!

Iam64 Sat 08-Feb-20 08:09:50

Another unpleasant, mean minded, thoroughly nasty thread. What's the matter with people ?
The comment about making an industry out of therapy and Diana's death hits new lows, even on the anti Harry and Meghan threads that dominate so much on gransnet currently.

Lucca Sat 08-Feb-20 08:05:17

What an unpleasant mean-minded thread. With you all the way SW and Yehbut, also when someone disagrees why is it OK to immediately tell them not to comment?

Yehbutnobut Sat 08-Feb-20 07:50:56

Funny how some who complain about ‘foul mouths’ seem to think nasty, vindictive, bitchy posts that tear people like H&M to pieces are acceptable yet the odd swear word has them all a twitter!

Funny old world eh?