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Anniebach Sat 04-Apr-20 10:54:11

Keir Starmer .

Pikachu Sat 04-Apr-20 13:21:31

Cometh the hour, cometh the man?

I’ll wait and see.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Apr-20 13:13:00

That has always been the case though hasn’t it grandad?

Davidhs Sat 04-Apr-20 13:12:33

Grandad, Starmer is not going to abolish 40 yrs worth of legislation, there is much he could do to outlaw zero hours contracts and all the other recent practices that make the most vulnerable worse off.

He has to take a middle road because if you hit companies and investors too hard they pay less tax, so the government has less to spend on infrastructure and services.

Grandad1943 Sat 04-Apr-20 13:09:47

The make up of the Labour national executive is as follows as you can see the majority of the seats are held by by trade unions constituency parties and affiliate organisations.

Below is the structure at the last meeting held prior to the Coronavirus closedown

Chair: Andi Fox
Vice Chair: Ian Murray
Leader: Jeremy Corbyn MP
Deputy Leader: VACANT
Treasurer: Diana Holland
Chair of Equalities: Ann Henderson
Shadow Frontbench: Jon Trickett MP
Shadow Frontbench: Rebecca Long-Bailey MP
Shadow Frontbench: Diane Abbott MP
Shadow Scottish Frontbench: Richard Leonard MSP
Welsh Labour Representative: Mick Antoniw AM
Young Labour: Lara McNeill
BAME Labour: Vacant
Div. I – Trade Unions: Mark Ferguson (Unison)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Howard Beckett (Unite)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Andi Fox (TSSA)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Pauline McCarthy (Bakers)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Michael Wheeler (Usdaw)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Wendy Nichols (Unison)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Andy Kerr (CWU)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Tom Warnett (GMB)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Jayne Taylor (UNITE)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Kathy Abu-Bakir (GMB)
Div.I – Trade Unions: Ian Murray (FBU)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Mick Whelan (ASLEF)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Joanne Cairns (USDAW)
Div. II – Socialist Societies: James Asser
Div. III – CLPs: Huda Elmi
Div. III – CLPs: Yasmin Dar
Div. III – CLPs: Rachel Garnham
Div. III – CLPs: Ann Henderson
Div. III – CLPs: Jon Lansman
Div. III – CLPs: VACANT
Div. III – CLPs: VACANT
Div. III – CLPs: Darren Williams
Div. III – CLPs: Pete Willsman
Div. IV – Labour Councillors: Nick Forbes
Div. IV – Labour Councillors: Alice Perry
Div. V – PLP/EPLP: George Howarth MP
Div. V – PLP/EPLP: Margaret Beckett MP
Div. V – PLP/EPLP: Shabana Mahmood MP

In addition, the PLP Shadow Chief Whip (Nick Brown MP), and PLP Chair (John Cryer MP) attend ex-officio without a vote.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Apr-20 13:00:26

galaxy yes the NEC will change its character now.

Galaxy Sat 04-Apr-20 12:55:20

No Grandad there was a by election for the NEC today, won by Gurinder Josan and Johanna Baxter, so once Starmer appoints his choices to the NEC they will have the majority. It is important because the NEC cant now block Starmer.

POGS Sat 04-Apr-20 12:53:10

Grandad is correct, the NEC will remain unchanged.

The ' Inner Circle' however may change and if the likes of Seamus Milne, Marie Murphy et al remain in situ you would know where Starmer's politics lie.

However I am sure Starmer has already set his ' new team' in place and it will be interesting to see who he chooses and get to know/understand their history.

POGS Sat 04-Apr-20 12:45:02

Starmer's spokesman said: "This afternoon Keir Starmer spoke with the Prime Minister about the current national emergency.

"Keir offered to work constructively with the Government on how best to respond to the coronavirus outbreak, accepted the Prime Minister's offer to meet next week and agreed arrangements for Privy Council briefings and discussions."
--

What a difference a day makes.

Anniebach Sat 04-Apr-20 12:44:09

grandsd43 voters have shown we do not want the party we have now. If they did they would have voted for Long Bailey.

Grandad1943 Sat 04-Apr-20 12:41:20

Galaxy in regard to your post @12:07 the Parliamentary Labour Party National Executive Committee is unchanged at this point in time. Starmer will replace Corbyn in the leadership seat and some seats allocated for shadow cabinet members will be replaced one for one.

The majority of seats on that committee are allocated to the trade unions, constituency Labour parties and other affiliate organisations, and they will remain unchanged.

EllanVannin Sat 04-Apr-20 12:40:38

I noticed that Urmstongran---if Boris is better that is because to me he looks rather unwell ?

Urmstongran Sat 04-Apr-20 12:34:14

I had to chuckle that Boris waited until Corbyn was out before inviting the opposition to a cross-party meeting next week!

rafichagran Sat 04-Apr-20 12:18:49

I am really pleased with this.

SirChenjin Sat 04-Apr-20 12:13:06

An excellent outcome - hopefully this will be the start of a more centric, moderate approach to UK politics to balance the craziness we’ve had over the last couple of years.

Ilovecheese Sat 04-Apr-20 12:08:29

I liked the way he said he would not oppose the Govt for oppositions sake.
Loved the way he spoke of the real "key workers" in this country.
Hard to see what he could object to what the Tory Govt. is doing at the moment, Rishi Sunak has just delivered a socialist budget and discovered the magic money tree that Mrs May said did not exist. The army are helping to build hospitals. These are the right things to be doing , they are also left wing policies.

Galaxy Sat 04-Apr-20 12:07:56

And now non corbynistas now have the majority on the NEC.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 04-Apr-20 12:06:13

A happy outcome at last we can look forward.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Apr-20 12:05:59

I think the reaction that he’s getting shows how desperate the country is for a leader of integrity and moderation.

We haven’t had such a speech from a leader of any political party for decades.

He carries quite a burden of expectation, and we must all cut him slack as he will almost certainly find the baron owned media will go in all guns blazing.

Witzend Sat 04-Apr-20 12:04:31

Why on earth did it take so long?

Grandad1943 Sat 04-Apr-20 12:03:56

Should it be that Kier Starmer holds to his promise to abolish the anti-trade union legislation that has so much damaged the rights and conditions of working people in this country for over forty years then the Labour Party and wider Labour movement will remain as one in the coming years.

As I have stated often in these threads, who won the leadership election is probably of lesser consequence than who now in the coming days is appointed to the shadow cabinet. That will, in reality, indicate the political direction the parliamentary Labour Party will attempt to travel.

Should Starmer and that appointed cabinet remain with the election pledges to renationalise the utility companies, train operations in this country and as stated abolish many of the anti-trade union regulations should Labour come to power, then I believe the Labour movement will remain as one.

Should the above pledges be abandoned then the Labour Party as it is in being now will not exist in two-three years time.

However, we now live in unprecedented times and all should give this new leader all the support that is required along with the current government administration for the sake of us all.

Galaxy Sat 04-Apr-20 12:02:38

Yes that's a good point, we dont want a messiah, actually a bit of blandness would not do any harm.

Jane43 Sat 04-Apr-20 12:01:09

If he carries on in this vein Labour will regain my vote at the next election. I’m not so sure about Angela Rayner though, she is Rebecca Long-Bailey’s best friend and I wasn’t impressed by some of her interviews pre the last election, notably the one with Andrew Marr; she is very adept at not answering the question posed and spouting rhetoric instead. I wish Lisa Nandy had stood for Deputy Leader. It will be interesting to see who he appoints to the Shadow Cabinet.

Anniebach Sat 04-Apr-20 11:58:03

1983 the country said ‘no way’ to a far left government, same
in 2019.

Now we wait for the new shadow cabinet

janipat Sat 04-Apr-20 11:57:35

MaizieD if he maintains the integrity he speaks of in his speech then that is all that can be expected. Too often politicians talk the talk but don't even attempt to walk the walk. I don't think people are expecting miracles, just someone who has pledged to put the country first in his dealings, which is just what we need. We've had enough political point scoring to last several lifetimes!

Framilode Sat 04-Apr-20 11:51:38

Brilliant news, at last there is hope.