New Labour LEADER

Not entirely annie and perhaps it is time to rethink funding

With the unions waving the cheque books

So why wouldn’t he?

I would expect and hope that the Labour manifesto which was rejected by the voters would be revisited and where thought necessary changed. It can’t be moribund.

Nothing has ever been in tablets of stone.

Whitewavemark2, Starmer will get the cooperation of the vast majority as long as he holds to the commitments he made during his leadership election campaign.

That included all the policies that were contained in the Labour party general election manifesto.

Now, even I do not believe he will not wish to change some of that just to stamp his own leadership mark on the party and movement if not for any other reason.

He’ll get it, no one wants to commit suicide

1Anniebach Quote [ Who I wonder are ‘the significant’] End Quote

Anniebach, chair persons and secretaries of Labour senior committees etc. The same could apply similarly to trade union bodies and other affiliate organisations.

Starmer will require their support if he is looking to change policies and stance into the future.

Who I wonder are ‘the significant’

Whitewavemark2, surely I could never sound like that. ?

However, I was genuinely thinking that for new leaders of all parties the annual conference is where they stamp their style and image on all who are significant in the organization.

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I wasn’t in wilderness years the Labour Party was with
Corbyn

grandad you are beginning to sound like annie during her wilderness years ?

I am wondering what will happen in regard to the Labour Annual Delegate Conference. It will be Starmer's first big chance to shine in front of the whole movement, and in that bring sceptics onside.

However, despite the Conference start date not being until the 19th of September, many trades unions and other affiliate organisations hold their national conferences in May, June or early July which bring forward motions and resolutions for debate at the Labour Conference.

Many of the above affiliate organisation conferences have already been cancelled due to the crisis, therefore it is difficult to see how the Annual Labour Delegate conference will be able to go ahead?

Should that happen it would be a great loss for Keir Starmer in his new leadership role I feel.

One Labour MP -Kylie- is making a good point. With Hancocks attention understandably entirely in the NHS, we need a minister whose job is to oversee Social Care.

One thing that Starmer is putting pressure on the government for, and which many others are in agreement is that the government must get its act together over and exit strategy.

This isn’t about timing but preparedness.

I absolutely agree. They did not prepare for the virus, let’s at least prepare for when we can safely emerge into the world again.

Hello POGS

I was making a point about the cartoon in the Evening Standard very insulting to Keir Starmer and Ed Miliband with Ed depicted with a hook nose eating a bacon sandwich Osbourne as editor thought it fine. Now what will the BOD say if anything as it is in a Tory paper the BOD are Tory supporters All the efforts Starmer went to to please the BOD why is there no outcry from the BOD about this The piece in VoxPolitical was very well presented and a talking point. Lots on twitter thought the same as you can read in the piece.

As I said I hope Starmer does well with good Labour polices that I think he will he said enact from the L manifesto. I don't know how he will be as leader and hopefully PM will see he has my support for now. Hope that clears up any misunderstanding POG

growstuff, I take it you would wish to see Keir Starmer come up with polices in a similar fashion to producing rabbits from a hat, ether without consultation with any other sector within the Labour movement or without.

That process would be exactly the same as the Liberal Democrats carried out at the last General Election. Other than yourself, I seem to recall that very few of the electorate found that approach very attractive, as the results demonstrated.

I'm more interested in what Starmer's policies are with respect to the people of this country than whether or not he unites the Labour Party. I sincerely hope that his time and energy aren't taken up with trying to appeal to a few within some factions. Leave that kind of thing to those with time on their hands, who like to go to meetings and who don't seem to think that winning an election and enacting policies which would enhance people's lives are important.

Grany you say:-

' I look forward to what K Starmer will do and an hopeful'

' I am hoping K Starmer will do well for Labour.'
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Yet you put links up to voxpolitical/MidWalesMike who like yourself is out and out pro Corbyn and it is presumably somebody you follow and respect his opinions.

I don't usually put links up to the likes of Mike Sivier but as you have used his words I will ask if the following are what could be called ' rooting for Starmer'.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2020/04/05/outcry-as-starmer-promotes-anti-semite-supporter-rachel-reeves-into-shadow-cabinet/
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voxpoliticalonline.com/2020/04/06/nandy-appointed-shadow-foreign-secretary-labour-has-no-plans-to-regain-scottish-seats/

I expect him to say as he did about Boris Johnsons health deteriorating ' Save Your Sympathy' but he doesn't seem to be too keen on Keir Starmer does he.

grandad indeed

Whitewavemark2 Quote [ I take it you don’t like Starmer grandad] End Quote.

Whitewavemark2, I certainly do not dislike Keir Starmer. Just like almost everyone on this forum I would think I do not know him personally and therefore have to judge him by what he states.

Therefore I shall wait and see what he and his fresh cabinet bring forward by way of uniting a very fractious Parliamentary Labour Party and through that, improving the confidence of the wider Labour movement in the that Parliamentary Party.

As I have already stated in this thread, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

Just ignore them - it’s all going to look increasingly irrelevant and out of touch. Look forward

The far left will not move on suzie they keep bringing up
the Blair government with no mention of the 1983 election
which caused the Labour Party to move from the power of the
far left.

But I wouldn’t criticise either, just look to the future. The world has moved on.

suzie if 1997 politics can be criticised so can 1983 politics

Oh dear - back to the future.