Are you sure, Harry?

A person who attempts suicide is ill, not dysfunctional. Why do accounts of attempted suicide make a family dysfunctional? Not sure I understand that.

Every family, royal or not, has difficulties at times. And many have a ‘black sheep.’ I think Catherine’s was an uncle, who was a bit shady, but nonetheless invited to their wedding.

No !!! I said ACCOUNTS of suicide ATTEMPTS

A family where a family member attempts suicide or commits
suicide is a dysfunctional family ?

trisher your knowledge of mental illness in nil, you spend too long at the shrine of Corbyn and are not in the real world.

Dysfunctional- evidence of family break ups where the children suffered and have spoken of this. Accounts of suicide attempts Failing to properly develop relationships- parental difficulties.
Delusional- Andrew doesn't think he should answer to the law. Thinking a wedding will cheer up people at the end of pandemic. Imagining that they somehow are special and have a special relationship with the public or that they live lives like the rest of UK
Both apply to members of the RF.
Chestnut and Sparklefizz I have never denied that some people like the RF and the role they play. I don't. Equally I do not understand why anyone would hate a young couple like H&M. When I post alternative views you may regard it as starting an argument I simply think questioning the attitude taken by these people is valid. You may not. If you can't understand that it is possible to dislike the RF as a body and be indifferent to individual members that's your problem.
And I don't understand why anyone would deny the very real evidence that the people Harry spoke to were pleased to see him.

Chestnut and Sparklefizz yes, she does it just to start an argument. Every time the royals are mentioned. She also says she doesn’t dislike the royals but a fair number of threads have shown that to be untrue, in my opinion. You’re right Chestnut, the words ‘don’t like’ may not be used but the meaning is crystal clear.

Yes I do know what sycophantic means trisher. Bye ?

It's just to start an argument, Chestnut. She does it every time.

trisher - you say you don't dislike the Royal Family but describe them as 'dysfunctional and delusional'. Those are pretty strong words but actually quite meaningless. Not words I would use to describe anyone unless I really didn't like them. If people are getting something out of what H&M are doing then what about all the people who have been uplifted by what the RF have been doing for the last 100 years? You are praising something very insignificant but ignoring something much more substantial.

You described them as "sycophantic" Shelmiss Do you know what the word means? Do you really think it was 'advantage' they were seeking and not just a friendly understanding face?
NotSpaghetti If people get a buzz from that sort of attention that's fine. I just don't understand why people get so involved with them and hate one while they love another. Do you think a celeb like say Ant and Dec would be viewed the same?

I think trisher it's a (sort-of) reflected glory. And if you work in a difficult job or you have been campaigning for something close to your heart then it's a (sort-of) statement that you are worth something and not just slogging on day by day.

Years ago, when I worked for a small charity, some of my team were invited to a function with a member of the RF. There were loads of local "dignitaries" there and whoever it was said something positive and upbeat to one of my close colleagues about the work we did. They were so pleased that their hard work had been recognised they were buzzing for ages.

Of course it was the same if we had a thank you from someone we'd actually helped (!) but the prestige attached to the RF visit was different. Definitely not better - no, certainly not - but it meant the charity (and that individual) had been noticed.

No my comment had absolutely nothing to do with what the parents are coping with so stop trying to make out it did.

Shelmiss what a disgusting thing to say about the parents of severely disabled children trapped in lockdown, short of PPE and fearing for their children's lives.

maddyone look at the video the parents and the childen clearly enjoy talking to him.
I don't dislike any of them . I don't actually know them. I think the RF as a whole is a useless unnecessary anachronism. But I don't as many seem to do on GN imagine I have any personal knowledge or connection with any of them. It never ceases to amaze me the degree of hatred and bile that can be aimed at one young couple. In some cases it almost amounts to psychosis. I really haven't "applauded" Harry just recognised that others seem to appreciate him and that they are entitled to do that without attracting a lot of flak from GNers.

I'd like to know a bit about it as well, NotSpaghetti especially as the BBC is funded by licence payers' money.

And why did Harry have to make a big deal about involving the Archbishop of Canterbury?

I found the video a little bit nauseating...and very sycophantic.......oh Harry how funny you are, oh Harry you are wonderful. (Not)

'tinsel vulgarity which H & M clearly do'

I'm still interested in the "extra profit"...
Does anyone know about this?

Not given respect?!!!! FGS the RF bent over backwards to welcome her and pander to her every whim! That beautiful wedding, gallant P.C, that expensive house, that wonderful honeymoon? The press didn't say a bad word about her, the country by and large welcomed her to their hearts, where do you think those cheering crowds came from?!! MM threw it all back in all our faces even to the point of accusing us of racism and RF as toxic . She's the one who is toxic, she's the one who has shown complete disrespect for the RF and the rest of us! Oh, and while on the subject, perhaps these two low life's could see their way to reimbursing the outstanding tax payers money they've accrued now they don't live here anymore and hopefully never will! If they can't live on their own money of several million pounds, then they truly are a gruesome pair!
Nothing to do with intellect trisher, I was thinking more of not fitting in with tinsel vulgarity!

I’m afraid I find trisher’s attitude puzzling too. She clearly dislikes the entire royal family enormously and yet applauds H+M. Weird!

Meghan needed Harry to provide her with the riches, profile and platform that she was unable to achieve through years and years of working as an actress and other things. Without him, where would she be now? Harry fell out width his brother when Meghan arrived on the scene, for whatever reasons we do not know, but she certainly exacerbated any feelings he had about being second to his brother. Now, it is all a big game. When Kate and William get publicity, Harry and Meghan who, let us not forget, moved to get away from the paparazzi and publicity And to lead a quiet life, suddenly feel compelled (their word) to mount a publicity campaign in the hope of not only rivalling William and Kate but overshadowing them. It is all exceptionally childish particularly at a time like this.

trisher I also fail to understand the absolute hatred expressed on this thread to one over privelged couple who have just decided to live different lives.
And yet you have expressed an equal amount of 'hatred' (if that's what you call it) for the Royal Family who do far more charitable work than H&M and have served this country all their lives.

Megan wasn’t given proper respect ? Surely respect is earned
not given accorded to intelligence

In what way are the lives of parents of disabled children improved by a phone call from Harry?

Harry, had to get away from the constraints of the Royal family. He was the 'spare'& had fallen out with his brother William. Megan is an intelligent lady but she was not given proper respect both by the press or family. To live day in and day out under the shadow of the Royalty and feel miserable would not be have bee easy for the Sussex family. They took a bold step, I wish them all the happiness for future.

Jabberwok Oh yes because all the RF are such intellectual giants