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MaizieD Fri 22-May-20 22:09:15

News breaking tonight that Dominic Cummings and his wife, when ill with Covid-19, put their child in the car and drove 260 miles from London to Durham so that they could isolate at his parent's place and his parents look after the child. This happened some time after 27th March. Remember lockdown was imposed on 23rd March.

Seen in his parent's garden with his child on 5th April.

Neil Fergusson resigned because his lover visited his house after lockdown.

Scotland's Chief Medical Officer had to resign after visiting her second home twice after lockdown.

Cummings and his wife drive 260 miles to stay with his parents (who must be in their 60s at the very least)... What will he do?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dominic-cummings-investigated-police-after-22072579?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Story is in most of the MSM now.

NfkDumpling Mon 25-May-20 08:01:27

Good heavens! The Change petition is up to 213,000 now and seems to be rising at about 100 signatures a minute!

Dillyduck Mon 25-May-20 07:52:29

As someone who is "vulnerable", I'm dismayed at his behaviour. To knowingly take the bugs to potentially share with the family is bad enough, but what about when they needed a "comfort break" on the way there??? Is childcare not available in London IF they really needed it?

Grannynannywanny Mon 25-May-20 07:52:02

While Cummings clings to his job with the baffling support of Johnson we all have to hold strong.

Because Cummings behaved like a reckless fool the big danger to us all is if everyone follows his lead and drops their guard now at this crucial stage.

We’d all love to meet and hug our loved ones, help with childcare to ease the pressure on our AC etc. No one more than me.

But the disgusting behaviour of Cummings and Johnson does not change the fact we are in the midst of a pandemic. A potentially fatal virus is still in every community. To follow Cummings lead and drop our guard could set off the dreaded second wave of the virus which could be catastrophic for us all.

I’m aching to see my little grandchildren 130 miles away. But we have to hold strong and continue this battle together in a safe way.

Those who will choose to throw caution to the wind in the wake of this disgusting fiasco could set us all back to full lockdown and ITUs full to bursting with patients fighting to survive, more frontline staff dying and more care homes decimated.

The consequences are unthinkable.

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:42:22

No, I don't Chewbacca. I don't think it's about remorse. It's all part of a game. That article is a sham, in the same way Johnson's talk of making red buses out of boxes was.

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:40:30

They've proved to themselves and the rest of us that they are above the law and the boundaries of accepted morality. They can do what they like - and we're letting them.

Chewbacca Mon 25-May-20 07:40:07

What a splendid piece of fiction Mary Wakefield wrote; full of details and anecdotes and even the odd bit of prose thrown in to pique the readers sympathy.

Does anyone think that these two lying, deceitful, arrogant pieces of are having even the smallest shred of remorse?

NfkDumpling Mon 25-May-20 07:30:58

(Do you think he has a fluffy white cat?)

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:30:01

I think the trip (or trips) to Durham are a distraction. All he had to do was something the British public would find outrageous.

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:27:17

It needs a Hercule Poirot or Jane Marple - any Agatha Christie fans will know what I'm talking about.

They're doing it with mirrors!

NfkDumpling Mon 25-May-20 07:26:15

Morning All

A thought. Could it be that Cummings is also well up on the autistic spectrum (he seems to have a problem with buttons and clothes fastenings), and that he’s unable to cope on his own with his son? Perhaps he had a meltdown and the trip to see his mum was the only resolution. There’s a lot we don’t know here. Does he actually speak to his London relatives? Or more to the point, do they have anything to do with him?

When a person has the amount of power over a democratic country that Cummings has, he can’t stay hidden in the shadows. He’s a public figure whether he likes it or not. Perhaps its time for him to come clean. A bit of honesty wouldn’t go amiss.

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:25:49

Not in the cabinet, but there are decent human beings on the Tory back benches.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 07:24:59

Maybe, just maybe this is the beginning of their end?

It needs some brave individuals in the Tory cabinet. Is that an oxymoron?

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:24:59

It's been a tool in a long-term game.

I just hope people don't fall for it. It's only a small part of it anyway, but people mustn't do anything against their best interests. That's what we're being encouraged to do.

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:22:38

Closing down Parliament, neutering the press, the judges, the civil service and now medical/scientific advisers is all part of it.

Democracy has been pushed to its limit - yet there have been no repercussions.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 07:21:52

You could almost believe that for them, covid has been a welcome distraction.

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:19:38

We're being played like pawns on a chessboard.

This is about distraction and getting something past the British public, which in normal circumstances it would never approve.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 07:18:34

growstuff god it is all so bloody depressing

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:16:40

Question - How do you get a population to act against its best interests, yet persuade them they're acting with free will?

Sound familiar?

I wondered why Cummings mentioned Brexit when he was interviewed by reporters outside his home. It seemed irrelevant at the time, but I wonder.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 07:16:34

No I know, but the myth they built up. Intelligent Johnson, Cummings against the elite etc, are being exposed as complete falsehoods. It is a start.

Yes the real worry is dark dealings but how on earth can that be dealt with if it buried so deeply no one knows about it?

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:13:05

vegansrock Don't put yourself or your family in any danger (I'm sure you won't), but don't take your eye off what else is happening in this country.

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 07:11:15

But it's not collapsing round his ears. That's what is so remarkable. He's getting away with stuff which nobody else would have done. He's pushed people to the edge - yet there have been no consequences.

There is something very wrong about this whole sordid tale on so many levels.

I keep mentioning the Agriculture Bill and the NHS. People have been distracted from what is really going on under our very noses and will have much longer term effects then one odious man breaking the rules which he, himself, helped write, however arrogant and hypocritical he is.

vegansrock Mon 25-May-20 07:02:09

janipat I am visiting family in their garden and doing essential childcare support. We have to follow our instincts on this we are now being told.
Anyone still got any respect or confidence in this mob?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 06:55:51

Twitter are reporting that Cummings has travelled to Durham at least 5 times during lockdown.

growstuff Mon 25-May-20 06:52:23

Cummings' mother is now trying to claim that the whole family was in mourning for the death of her brother (John Laws) - not sure whether that's supposed to be another or excuse or what.

Laws died on 5 April in a London hospital after a three week illness.

According to Mary Wakefield's article, on 5 April (the day Johnson went into hospital), she fell on her knees and prayed for Johnson. There was no mention of praying for her husband's uncle, who had died the same day.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we practise to deceive ….

Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 06:44:36

Yesterday’s lockdown message got completely drowned out.

The country can’t continue like this.

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