Did people in Sunderland want this when they voted for a no-deal brexit?.

One of the people posting in response to the article part of a communications he'd received previously from his Conservative MP:

"Whilst writing, please note that we will not compromise on our food safety standards which include the ban on chlorinated chicken and hormone injected beef. Without exception, all animal products imported into the UK under existing or future free trade agreements from all trading partners will have to meet our stringent food safety standards, as they do now.

"I want to assure you that the UK also remains committed to the delivery of the Sustainable Development Goals and will continue to meet all of its international commitments following a potential US trade deal.

"The UK government will seek to ensure investors are protected while always making sure the UK has the right to regulate and US businesses abide by UK laws.

Kind regards,

Siobhan

Siobhan Baillie MP

I checked on the list of MPs who voted for the standards to be removed and, yes you guessed it, Ms Baillie was on it.

Full list of MPs who voted to lower our food standards during the Covid pandemic

Fears as Government promises for post-Brexit food and environmental standards removed from Agriculture Bill.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/full-list-of-mps-who-voted-to-lower-our-food-standards-during-the-covid-pandemic/26/05/?fbclid=IwAR30hHHcmOline1y-4-cFhGJhWvi2S-wFAOzVq5OMAAPI4jwQoQC2Lx2cR8

I seem to recall that there was one dominant message in the 2019 general election campaign which was "Get Brexit Done". Other parties tried and failed to put forward more comprehensive and precise messages, but the above was the connotation that "sold" with the Electorate.

The Tory Party through its leader promised little with the exception that if elected to government once again, Britain would leave the European Union in 2020. So, with or without a trade agreement that it would seem is to be the occurrence.

However, that is what the British electorate voted for and nothing else.

That article shows that farmers weren't that different from the general voting population. Not only that, but they were promised that food standards wouldn't be lowered.

In this area, farm workers generally voted for Brexit, but the farm owners voted to remain because they knew they'd lose their CAP subsidies. The NFU supported Remain.

No Maisie you said MOST BRITISH FARMERS. Had you said just over half then I’d not have contradicted you.

Like the of the UK it was a close run thing not MOST at all.

Urban myth? Polling evidence, Furret

www.fwi.co.uk/news/farmer-support-brexit-strong-ever-fw-poll-reveals

How can you say that Maizie? This is an urban myth being spread around.

No one was asked to state their occupation on the Brexit voting form were they? Think about it. How on earth could you reach that conclusion?

I'm afraid that is one petition I don't intend to sign. Most British farmers voted for Brexit (though the handful that I know actually didn't...). They've brought this on themselves. No sympathy from me.

Thank you Blinko. No matter what side of the Brexit fence people were on, this really matters,

Furret, I've signed that petition, and shared on SM so I know that a number of friends have also signed.

Well, the electorate of the North East of England voted for Brexit in the 2016 referendum and for this very Brexit Tory government in the 2019 general election and therefore they have been very consistent in their determination for Britain to leave its membership of the European Union.

In view of the above, anyone can believe that whatever Britains Brexit brings about that is what those Northern people wished to happen, for the better or for the worst.

We all have to live with what we carry out.

How is that going to work? Presumably the UK can't stop those who have bought the quotas from fishing in UK waters. Or can they? (I guess I need to do some further research.) My understanding is that the kind of fish we in the UK like to eat doesn't breed in UK waters.

Fisheries, there will be increased quotas for small boats no doubt, the rest will be traded away amongst other countries. There is not going to be a big expansion of U.K. fishing boats, even if there was they would have to use migrant crews, so little to gain.

The biggest gain for fisheries is having proper control over fish stocks, the EU fisheries policy was a complete disaster.

Was this the petition?

www.campaigns.nfuonline.com/page/56262/petition/1?locale=en-GB

I think they're wearing their facemasks over their eyes Furret.

I posted a link on GN yesterday from the NFU which was petitioning the government against cheap meat from the US. Last time I checked only a couple had signed it.

We drove home through England the week after the Breixt vote ,stopping along the way .being sociable we chatted to many folk in pubs en route.The one thing a lot said was " we need to try it on our own,if we dont do well we can always go back" I did say I thought that may not be an option and that we believed we were better in the EU but apparently I didn't have a clue about it ,you could leave and rejoin at will! Some are in for a very big shock when it happens and for us who voted to remain its an ongoing nightmare

They lied

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chlorinated-chicken-us-trade-talks-boris-johnson-trump-a9549656.html

PS. It won't just be BMWs, Mercs and VWs. Ford don't assemble any passenger cars in the UK. All of them are imported from the EU, so will have tariffs.

I agree with you Davidhs. And don't forget fishing. British fishermen sold their quotas to EU fishermen and won't get them back unless they pay for them. If they try to ignore the law, there are going to be massive law suits costing megabucks.

The British sell most of their catch to the EU anyway, so they're throwing their market away.

I don't suppose they go to Florida for the purpose of eating chlorinated chicken. The chances of food poisoning during a short stay are minimal.

Perhaps they're eating beef burgers instead. Also plenty of fish off the coast of Florida.

I suspect that most Brits who went to Florida as tourists were only there for a week or a fortnight and so quite a lot of them escaped food poisoning.

Funny how many tourists love going out to Florida to eat chlorinated chicken! It doesn’t seem to put them off. If one in six got food poisoning word would soon get round. Strange that it hasn’t....
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It’s not just Nissan, Toyota and Honda both set up UK factories to serve the EU market, those factories are now old and they won’t be reinvesting unless there is a good deal. Our only major U.K. based car maker is Indian owned Jaguar Landrover will carry on, albeit expanding its EU and Chinese factories at the expense of UK jobs.

It’s not really in EU interests to have no tariffs on cars because they are a much larger market and manufacturers will move there. So your BMW, Merc or VW will cost more.

Already promises are being forgotten despite stating that food standards would not be compromised, the new agriculture bill sweeps all that aside to enable imports from wherever they choose. Yes, most farmers did vote for Brexit - turkeys voting for Christmas.

No border in Ireland, there won’t be for people, for freight there will be specific routes where goods can be checked within Ireland and full customs at the mainland ports. Not what the Unionists wanted at all. Less red tape?, no chance, those that export to or travel to EU will have many hoops to jump through to meet EU regulations. The French have already turned compassionate, escorting boat loads of migrants safely into British waters, expect that to continue.