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BlueBelle Fri 05-Jun-20 12:31:00

Have you watched this video footage of the American police and their inhumane actions against an elderly man on the streets If America 2020
www.yahoo.com/huffpost/buffalo-police-push-protester-032541739.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_04
The gentleman is in hospital and seriously ill
The arrogant disregard by the police is something so un believable that you cannot believe it’s happening in any country let alone a so called world leader in

jacq10 Sat 06-Jun-20 10:25:34

I remember when visiting relatives in America and on a long drive my DH's cousin telling us that if you get stopped anywhere in America while driving by the police the first thing to do is to put both hands on the top of the steering wheel because if they can't see your hands they could think you are reaching for a gun and have the right to shoot you!!

Aspen Sat 06-Jun-20 10:20:46

This is their police force. Can you imagine how the US army behave when they invade the various war zones they get involved in.

Re the elderly chap, I only hope he has medical insurance as there will be no hesitation in presenting him or his family with a bill if and when he recovers.

Something for us to look forward to when we become the 51st State.

sf101 Sat 06-Jun-20 10:15:02

America seems to be a country of fear and hate with very poor law enforcement.
The rich fear losing their wealth and crime and carry guns to protect themselves.
The poor fear the police and get very little justice. They fear getting ill because they cannot afford healthcare.
Everyone fears poverty, diversity seems almost unheard of except in small pockets of liberalism.
The vast central states seem to fear anything and everything including their government and all things foreign.
Makes me grateful to live in the UK.

Hetty58 Sat 06-Jun-20 09:57:29

If the police can behave like that, when they know there are witnesses and cameras about, imagine how they'd be out of view!

BlackGrannie Sat 06-Jun-20 09:49:39

Very true words Jishere

Jishere Sat 06-Jun-20 09:43:22

This is Why there are groups in America who are ready to film the police on their phones most stand and watch because they are struck with fear, aghast how they behave.
George Floyd wasn't the first to die in the way he did there's a good document on BBC NYPD the real gangs. It makes you trully understand that Black lives matter needs everyones support.

Alexa Sat 06-Jun-20 09:38:28

It has been reported the police forces in the USA are sketchily trained and one State trains a policeman in half the time it takes to train a barber.

To lack of proper training add the class divisions in a society where material possessions are over valued and people are fearful of strangers taking away their prosperity and you have a society where the police forces are set up to maintain the status quo of deep divisions between the haves and the have -nots.

For historical reasons, slave consciousness, the poor are largely African Americans .

CassieJ Sat 06-Jun-20 09:29:36

I am disgusted with this. I cannot understand how they could just walk past this poor man when he was lying on the ground bleeding! Where is the compassion from these people?

I cannot believe that their police can just get away with the violence that they use.

I hope that this poor man recovers okay.

BlueBelle Sat 06-Jun-20 09:21:59

No old woman he does not go for the officers gun at all I read that the elderly man pickEd up a helmet (it’s in his left hand ) and was trying to hand it back it looks to me as if he has a phone in his right hand I believe that’s an army paramedic at the very end

It is a distinct push no one can see that as a trip

Has anyone read how he is? the last I saw it said seriously ill in hospital

sodapop Sat 06-Jun-20 09:16:39

They are adamant that the victim slipped and was not pushed.

It seems this is all going to escalate, Trump is not going to clear this up any time soon. I think that individuals and police forces have take responsibility for their actions otherwise nothing will change.

Oldwoman70 Sat 06-Jun-20 08:48:35

At the beginning of the clip it appears the gentleman is either touching or grabbing the officers weapon and is pushed away, he then stumbles and falls back, another officer is then seen speaking into his mic. (possibly asking for medical support).

What is unforgiveable is one officer preventing another from going to his aid, and the number who chose to walk past without offering assistance. The end of the clip shows someone in camouflage (army?) kneeling by the man presumably helping him.

Grannynannywanny Sat 06-Jun-20 08:46:57

The image of that poor man lying unconscious with blood streaming from his head after being pushed to the ground is appalling.

Then to see police officers walk past and make no attempt to help him defies description.

BlueBelle Sat 06-Jun-20 08:35:56

ginster I think they have resigned from the unit not the police force per se they are still on full pay as I read it
It is corrupt to the last inch

Sar53 Sat 06-Jun-20 08:24:10

I was also upset and incensed by that video. I couldn't believe that the police would just walk on by when it was obvious the elderly man was badly hurt. You could see the blood coming from his head.
Donald Trump has to be the worst thing to have happened to the American people but there are thousands that revere him.
I'm so glad we live in a country where our police are not armed .

Ginny42 Sat 06-Jun-20 08:14:13

He said at a news briefing about higher employment figures that George would be looking down from heaven and would be happy about the US jobs. 'It's a great day for him and a great day for everybody.'

Yes, when I heard that I felt I was watching a mad man. Why can't the Republicans say he's ill and put Pence in charge?

Gingster Sat 06-Jun-20 08:02:01

I agree. Trump is delusioned, and a danger

Gingster Sat 06-Jun-20 08:00:47

And the whole police unit have resigned as they are disgusted the officers concerned have been suspended. WTH ?

BlueBelle Sat 06-Jun-20 07:59:58

If someone doesn’t put Trump in a straight jacket soon
His latest rant whilst congratulating the good economy of the US he said ( not a direct copy of his words ) George will be happy he ll be looking down and will be so happy for the country

BlueBelle Sat 06-Jun-20 07:57:52

.....And on full pay I m incensed by it

Ginny42 Sat 06-Jun-20 07:57:39

Yes the scenes from the USA are shocking in the extreme, but the attitude is coming directly from Trump in the White House. Listen to him directing the police to treat the peaceful demonstrators as terrorists.

In a call to State governors he told them they would look like “jerks” if they did not toughen their response to protesters.

Police used tear gas and flash grenades to disperse a crowd so Trump could walk to a church and pose for photographs while holding a Bible outside the boarded-up church. Are they the actions of a sane person?

The President should surely be trying to calm things down.

BlueBelle Sat 06-Jun-20 07:55:20

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NotSpaghetti Sat 06-Jun-20 07:35:43

*right at the end

NotSpaghetti Sat 06-Jun-20 07:35:25

BlueBelle - I think a photographer is taking photos tight at the end.

Bathsheba Sat 06-Jun-20 07:31:29

Truly shocking. Not just the way he was pushed with no care for the consequences, but the total indifference to the victim's injuries. Not one of the officers stopped to check if he was OK, not one of them stayed with him until an ambulance arrived. What appalling disregard for human life.

ladymuck Sat 06-Jun-20 07:23:46

It was fortunate that it happened right in front of a camera, so there can be no denying what happened.
There are a lot of American police dramas on tv, which always portray the police as 'your friendly neighbourhood policeman'. Now we know differently.