2019 abortion statistics

How I long for a proper debate without the contentious atmosphere and personal insults.

When the population of the U.K. can have a proper debate about what you chose to do with your own body MrsHappy is the day you can get a proper debate on what other women chose to do with theirs.

It’s absolutely none of your business!

GG65. If you follow this argument through then no one could comment on anyone else's actions. If you saw a child being abused is it none of your business? Animals being mistreated, none of your business? How we choose to be part of our world is all our business. Do we ignore everything around us and live in a bubble?

MrsHappy you say you are pro choice, but for whom I wonder does your "choice" extend to?

In your OP you set out the figures but your observations are anything but neutral.

Foetuses have a heart beat at two weeks What does that convey?

........performed on Ground C which seems to me to be abortion on demand.

I am not anti abortion but with all the first rate contraception available why are so many unwanted pregnancies occurring?

Of course you are being judgemental, why not be honest and say who, if anyone, in your opinion, should be eligible to have an abortion?

Is that the same logic you are using MrsHappy to come to the conclusion that you are not being judgemental?

What a woman chooses to do with her own body is none of your business.

Harming children and animals is not the same. Not remotely the same. I don’t know how on earth you have come to that comparison.

Iam64, I didn’t take you to be supporting the OP. I thought you made an interesting point. I did mention your name when I wrote a long post but then the internet gobbled it up and I had to rewrite! ?

MrsHappy if you had really wanted a factual debate in this topic, you wouldn’t have used emotive terms such as ‘innocent babies’ or ‘which seems to me’ or ‘first rate contraception’ which are all your opinions and judgement.

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MrsHappy if you had really wanted a factual debate in this topic, you wouldn’t have used emotive terms such as ‘innocent babies’ or ‘which seems to me’ or ‘first rate contraception’ which are all your opinions and judgement.

Exactly this.

Maybe I’ve missed it, but I have seen nobody insulting her either. Just expressing different viewpoints, and poking holes in her opinions presented as facts.

Always interesting when somebody wants a non-emotive kind debate, but uses emotive and volatile language and insults other people while trying to be on the moral high ground

All done, fed up with most of you on here going for the jugular without reading what I said.
In my opinion there are a lot of guilty consciences talking here.
Yes that is meant to be judgmental.

Comprehensive demonstration of non judgemental there.

I am very against abortion, no matter what the circumstances. It doesn't matter how you want to dress it up, a potential person is being killed for someone's convenience. It seems the life of a convicted criminal is more important.

Absolutely no guilty conscience here. And you can call it your option all you want.
Racists have opinions. Should we tip toe around them?

You want to shame women for making medical decisions that only affect them.

Oh! I read what you wrote MrsHappy. And, no, I don't have a guilty conscience.

Summerlove It does seem that being angry and trying to provoke people is becoming quite fashionable.

Presumably the topic of this thread is aimed at pointing out the failure of the healthcare system to get contraception to women who need it? Surely that is what needs to be investigated?

I can’t believe all these abortions are due to the fact contraception wasn’t available. I’m 57 & could get the pill easily 40 years ago!
I think many women take risks. Or get to an age where they think it’s not that easy to get pregnant anymore......then hey presto!
But whatever the reasons, it’s good that safe termination is available if needed.

Oh MrsHappy we have read what you wrote, which is exactly why some of us are challenging it. And now you don’t like the opinions being expressed so you’ve thrown your toys out of the pram?

I think I was asking a reasonable question MrsHappy. If you are not anti abortion who in your opinion should be eligible to have an abortion?

From what posters have written who have challenged your stance, I don't understand how "guilty conscience" is relevant.

Who /why has a guilty conscience?

I believe it's a woman's choice and nobody else's business.

No guilty conscience here either,I cant imagine any circumstances where I would have an abortion but I wouldn't presume to stop anyone who believes they need to have one .It doesn't affect my life in any way .

I missed the guilty conscious bit. What a strange thing to say.

MrsHappy You say you are "pro choice" - what exactly does that mean to you?

I am against abortion - it is the killing of life.
That little soul (and it has one since conception) goes to heaven and continues growth.
I sadly had 2 miscarriages, but I know one day I shall meet my other 2 children in heaven.
How Our Holy Mother weeps for all those dear babies who are slaughtered by human's hand.

That's your belief NannyC2, to which you are, of course, entitled. Other people don't believe in any God or heaven or soul since conception and are entitled to their belief too.