Anyone live in Leicester? The lockdown there has been extended.

Oops pressed wrong button on phone......Covid does not discriminate according to ethnicity or where you live.

If you are fit and healthy you stand a chance, it will find and hook onto any underlying health conditions.

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No but Public Health England has reported many cases of CV in passengers arriving from Pakistan in the last month. It could infect people anywhere .... Bradford, Leicester, London, New Zealand .... depending where the carrier ends up in the community.

Not Leicester though, is it?

Well a Pakistani who flew in from Lahore brought CV back into New Zealand. That must have been devastating for all concerned.

If Pakistani people were bringing it in then Bradford would be affected not Leicester. I've read today that it has been running riot in some of the sweatshops in Leicester. Far too many English people have broken lockdown that I do know and I hear local supermarkets are not good places to go to if you want to stay distanced and safe

Anniepa? that sounds like Cousin It.

I am from Leicester and when the Mayor can go to visit his lover twice in lockdown and just say 'sorry' I can understand why some people will not comply. I have to comply as I can't see to go out as my hair is now covering my whole face not just my eyes and I was really looking forward to going to the hairdressers. There is a lot of poverty, obesity and over crowded housing in Leicester which I believe is a lot to do with it.

I lived near Leicester many years ago and there was then a certain area of council housing where the people were more or less a law unto themselves and the police did not intervene much. They were mainly rehoused travellers who policed themselves and tended to work in the clothing industry,

Shame you ruined a good post with such a spiteful last sentence.

The fact is that local authority leaders have not been given ward by war data, which could have influenced decisions.

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growstuff
if you look at places here and other countries, that have a high number of positive covid-19 cases, they tend to have a high density of the population living in areas, on a low income with high unemployment, and the population suffer from multiple co-morbitities. This is not always the case but could explain why Barrow has been hard hit.
This is a very complex virus which the world is still learning about.
Having been born and bred in Leicester, I love the diversity of my city and which has welcomed and embrassed other people from far and wide.

Nobody needed to tell the mayor there was an increase in the number of cases when it was reported in the Leicester Mercury weeks ago, that schools were being closed within a week of reopening due to staff and pupils testing positive to covid-19. Saying that he was probably too busy breaking the lock down visiting his lady friend on the other side of the city from where he lives.

I'm sure it explains why Barrow (and Blackpool) have been hard hit, so what are all the racist posts on this thread about?

Health is worse and life expectancy is lower in those areas even in normal times. I suspect overcrowding and doing jobs which can't be done from home are factors.

There was a report produced by Public Health England, which the government seems to have "lost". If it's not lost, it's not going to do anything and doesn't even accept that poor living conditions have anything to do with high prevalence.

Because it needed to be eliminated as a cause. Which it has been. But you can't not look at possible causes because it might upset some people. Would it be racist if, say, Canada was a virus hotspot and I queried the arrival of people from Canada? You're the one that's assuming there is a racist motive behind the question. It might be used in a racist way by some sections of the population and, if it is that is unacceptable and I'll be the first person to condemn it. I, too love Leicester. It's multiculturalism at it's best and is a shining example to the rest of the country/world.

Because they're racists - simple as that!

It's especially ignorant because the areas of Leicester which have been most affected have a predominantly Indian-heritage population. I can't imagine that many British Indians would visit Pakistan that often, but I suppose they're all foreigners

They've got to blame somebody, even if it's far more likely that the 30 infected people from Pakistan probably flew into Heathrow.

It is racist when the blame for the outbreak in Leicester is laid at the door of a community that barely exists and has not had any cases in the outbreak. Or to say it has come from arrivees from Pakistan when you don't even know if anyone has come from Pakistan to Leicester.

There is nothing to link that community to the outbreak so why are people pointing the finger.

Yes, we could have been stuck overseas for months too (and no travel insurance) but did decide not to risk going.

I hadn't realised there were no flights in and out of Pakistan prior till late May. We spoke to someone at a BT call centre who said his wife was stuck in Thailand and couldn't get home. It's so important that we learn from these spikes as they're going to be with us for a long time and just locking down isn't going to solve anything. Every little last detail must be explored.

Sources have told the Mirror meat processing plants and gatherings around takeaways have come under the spotlight as a possible source of the outbreak.

And Labour’s Leicester MP Jon Ashworth pinpointed high poverty and a large BAME population who are at greater risk.

growstuff
if you look at places here and other countries, that have a high number of positive covid-19 cases, they tend to have a high density of the population living in areas, on a low income with high unemployment, and the population suffer from multiple co-morbitities. This is not always the case but could explain why Barrow has been hard hit.
This is a very complex virus which the world is still learning about.
Having been born and bred in Leicester, I love the diversity of my city and which has welcomed and embrassed other people from far and wide.

Nobody needed to tell the mayor there was an increase in the number of cases when it was reported in the Leicester Mercury weeks ago, that schools were being closed within a week of reopening due to staff and pupils testing positive to covid-19. Saying that he was probably too busy breaking the lock down visiting his lady friend on the other side of the city from where he lives.

Well said Bluecat.

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On the BBC news last night the mayor of Leicester mentioned that the language issue might have contributed to the problems in his city.

I do wish we didn’t have to endure the inevitable rants and accusations of ‘racism’ whenever topics like this are being discussed.

We seem to be heading to a situation where any racial aspect of any given situation becomes the elephant in the room which is completely ridiculous.

It sounds like a 'perfect storm'.

Yes, flights have resumed from Pakistan from 29th May and people would have been eager to get home again wherever they live. Until then there were no flights in or out.
I would want to get home if I'd been stuck abroad - wouldn't you? Pakistan has a spike in cases.
No-one is tested or quarantined when arriving
Schools have returned
People everywhere in the country broke the lockdown
There was an outbreak in a food factory.
BAME people are, for whatever reason, more susceptible to succumb to the virus.

No-one is criticising Leicester or Leicester people, just trying to work out why, bluecat.

I haven’t looked at today’s Times but that is wrong, especially as people are doing that all over the country. I sometimes feel that those of us that still realise there’s a pandemic going on are now existing in a different dimension to those who think it’s all over.

I saw today in the 'Times' the report about Leicester alongside a photo of a park where men were playing cricket, with crowds of onlookers, and no social distancing. If this is representative of what is going on then it's hardly surprising. It can't be much longer before there are other spikes following the selfish and silly gatherings that seem to have sprung up in other parts of the country over the last ten days or so. I do wondder what part of 40,000 plus deaths these people are not quite grasping.

Good post, Bluecat.