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Anyone live in Leicester? The lockdown there has been extended.

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Urmstongran Mon 29-Jun-20 21:37:08

Schools and non-essential shops affected.
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growstuff Tue 30-Jun-20 16:13:05

Madbird37

growstuff
if you look at places here and other countries, that have a high number of positive covid-19 cases, they tend to have a high density of the population living in areas, on a low income with high unemployment, and the population suffer from multiple co-morbitities. This is not always the case but could explain why Barrow has been hard hit.
This is a very complex virus which the world is still learning about.
Having been born and bred in Leicester, I love the diversity of my city and which has welcomed and embrassed other people from far and wide.

Nobody needed to tell the mayor there was an increase in the number of cases when it was reported in the Leicester Mercury weeks ago, that schools were being closed within a week of reopening due to staff and pupils testing positive to covid-19. Saying that he was probably too busy breaking the lock down visiting his lady friend on the other side of the city from where he lives.

I'm sure it explains why Barrow (and Blackpool) have been hard hit, so what are all the racist posts on this thread about?

Health is worse and life expectancy is lower in those areas even in normal times. I suspect overcrowding and doing jobs which can't be done from home are factors.

There was a report produced by Public Health England, which the government seems to have "lost". If it's not lost, it's not going to do anything and doesn't even accept that poor living conditions have anything to do with high prevalence.

growstuff Tue 30-Jun-20 16:14:42

Shame you ruined a good post with such a spiteful last sentence.

The fact is that local authority leaders have not been given ward by war data, which could have influenced decisions.

McGilchrist41 Tue 30-Jun-20 16:28:33

I lived near Leicester many years ago and there was then a certain area of council housing where the people were more or less a law unto themselves and the police did not intervene much. They were mainly rehoused travellers who policed themselves and tended to work in the clothing industry,

Anniepa Tue 30-Jun-20 16:43:37

I am from Leicester and when the Mayor can go to visit his lover twice in lockdown and just say 'sorry' I can understand why some people will not comply. I have to comply as I can't see to go out as my hair is now covering my whole face not just my eyes and I was really looking forward to going to the hairdressers. There is a lot of poverty, obesity and over crowded housing in Leicester which I believe is a lot to do with it.

lemongrove Tue 30-Jun-20 18:41:57

Anniepa? that sounds like Cousin It.

oodles Tue 30-Jun-20 19:36:46

If Pakistani people were bringing it in then Bradford would be affected not Leicester. I've read today that it has been running riot in some of the sweatshops in Leicester. Far too many English people have broken lockdown that I do know and I hear local supermarkets are not good places to go to if you want to stay distanced and safe

Ellianne Tue 30-Jun-20 19:48:32

Well a Pakistani who flew in from Lahore brought CV back into New Zealand. That must have been devastating for all concerned.

GagaJo Tue 30-Jun-20 19:53:07

Not Leicester though, is it?

Ellianne Tue 30-Jun-20 20:08:17

No but Public Health England has reported many cases of CV in passengers arriving from Pakistan in the last month. It could infect people anywhere .... Bradford, Leicester, London, New Zealand .... depending where the carrier ends up in the community.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 30-Jun-20 20:14:44

Covid-19 does not discriminate according to s

GrannyGravy13 Tue 30-Jun-20 20:17:01

Oops pressed wrong button on phone......Covid does not discriminate according to ethnicity or where you live.

If you are fit and healthy you stand a chance, it will find and hook onto any underlying health conditions.

tickingbird Tue 30-Jun-20 20:52:28

Actually growstuff they did establish that multi generational living was part of the problem in Italy!

Ellianne Tue 30-Jun-20 21:05:06

Thank you tickingbird for confirming that.
An Italian study found that "coresidential pattern is key to understanding the risk of direct and indirect death by COVID. Countries with older population & high levels of intergenerational households are especially vulnerable".

Iam64 Tue 30-Jun-20 21:18:24

Goodness, we have someone bringing the travelling community into the blame arena now, lawless and working in the clothing industry.

The Barrow outbreak may be linked to a group of residents who visited Italy in the period just before the spike there. Madbird is right though, to bring attention to the link between co-morbidities, poverty, poor housing and deprivation as well as the higher risk to the BAME community.
Blackpool is an area with out a large BAME community but it has all the other risk factors.

The attempt by some posters here, to blame the Pakistani community for the spike in Leicester is nauseating.

vegansrock Tue 30-Jun-20 21:27:12

Perhap the high incidence of cv in Westminster was due to foreigners/ travellers / poverty/ lack of hygiene / lifestyle - delete as appropriate.
So much ignorance on here, saw it all in February when Italy was being criticised.

Peardrop50 Tue 30-Jun-20 21:28:04

The Leicester Mercury knew about the spike in infections weeks ago yet the mayor had no idea.

kittylester Tue 30-Jun-20 21:41:24

We all knew, anecdotally, peardrop, but Sir Peter was otherwise engaged!

growstuff Tue 30-Jun-20 23:12:23

Rather than prurient gossiping about Soulsby and blaming travellers, Pakistanis and Uncle Tom Cobley and all, could this be the source of the flare up in Leicester?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/30/some-leicester-factories-stayed-open-and-forced-staff-to-come-in

kittylester Wed 01-Jul-20 07:25:01

Those of us who live round here knew about that too, growstuff, anecdotally.

kittylester Wed 01-Jul-20 07:28:23

McGilcrist, the area i think you refer to is completely different now.

Furret Wed 01-Jul-20 08:41:48

Yes growstuff I was shocked to read this. It is similar to an article I read on Mexican meat processing workers in the US being forced into work despite lockdown rules.

Iam64 Wed 01-Jul-20 08:41:53

grow stuff - I read this morning that at least one clothing factory plans to continue operating despite the lockdown. The manager/owner states they have orders that need completing by the end of this week. He claims to have closed in the early part of lock down but re-opened as they can't afford not to work. He also says his staff need the money, so come to work. I don't see how the claims about staff needing money can be accepted to be honest, as furlough would give them 80% and they'd be without the expenses associated with working.

It raises the question again, is this legislative or guidance. (you know, the driving to BC test)

Washerwoman Wed 01-Jul-20 08:43:49

Was that couple of weeks ago when he was also apologising for a lack of judgement for visiting and staying over at his girlfriend's separate residence through April and May wholst telling the citizens of Leicester to stay at home.Behaving exactly the same as Neil Ferguson .Honestly what is wrong with these people in positions of authority.The lot of them.

Furret Wed 01-Jul-20 08:45:14

If all this was common knowledge locally it begs the question ‘why did nobody do anything about it?’

Riverwalk Wed 01-Jul-20 08:50:18

It beggars belief that companies have totally ignored the laws and guidelines all these months, and got away with it!

Remember in the early days pictures of the police moving on solitary individuals sitting on a park bench or a deserted beach, and checking if shopping was essential goods; and drones monitoring dog walkers in the middle of nowhere?

The authorities in Leicester, and elsewhere, should be held to account for their lack of action.