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Up to 3 million Hong Kong residents are to be offered to settle in the UK (EDITED BY HQ)

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 01-Jul-20 13:56:10

That’s today’s headline, or would be if I was a leave campaigner and it was May 2016.

There would be huge posters up showing queues of people into the far distance, with Johnson saying the hoards are coming.

Brexiters complained about how our schools and hospitals would be full of these incomers.

I await the same arguments from these people.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jul-20 22:56:17

Perhaps if GNHQ would like to re write my OP it would begin to make more sense in regard the heading.

But if course then they would have to re write many of the replies as well.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jul-20 22:50:06

eleothan that was the point of my OP. Pointing out the ridiculousness of it.

I think even you would attribute greater intelligence to gnetters.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jul-20 22:46:46

I see they’ve changed the title again ???.

Getting a bit daft to say the least!

They still fail to understand the point of the thread though, and the title they have put up actually makes my so called antagonistic post worse.

They will pull this - mark my words.

Eloethan Thu 02-Jul-20 22:44:17

It didn't occur to me at the time of reading the title, but I suppose it could be seen as slightly misleading, in that 3m. might be entitled to come but it is unlikely that all 3m will come. As others have said, they may well be attracted to other countries that are willing to offer them residence, eg Canada, New Zealand, Australia, etc.

It's happened before. Do you remember when the Brexit campaign warned that virtually the whole of the Turkish population was likely to descend upon Britain if we remained in the EU?

Unfortunately some people on Gransnet and elsewhere will be working themselves up into a state of hysteria around the Hong Kong issue and will no doubt communicate that sense of hysteria to others, so possibly that's why the heading was altered.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jul-20 21:25:35

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Riverwalk Thu 02-Jul-20 21:22:46

I find this interference a tad irritating, but can live with such silliness.

But can you live with such bad grammar? grin

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jul-20 21:16:14

lemon Hmm, it would have been more polite to have contacted me first, but there you are.
I attribute GNers with more intelligence. If you read my OP it makes it clear that it ISNT the news headline, only that it would have been if it was being written by Johnson, Farage ect.

Smacked bums all around!!?

Riverwalk Thu 02-Jul-20 21:14:01

I think they totally misread Whitewave's political point.

Riverwalk Thu 02-Jul-20 21:11:26

Dreadful editing of title by HQ - stands out like a sore thumb! grin

lemongrove Thu 02-Jul-20 21:08:37

Callistemon

^*3 million Chinese to come to live in the UK*^
That's today's headline or would be

So it's not today's headline then?
confused

Not ever likely to be

Agreed Callistemon

The trouble is Whitewave that with so much fake news and misleading info around, HQ want to make sure that nobody really thinks that 3 million Hong Kong residents are winging their way at this moment to the UK.Factually, it isn’t a headline.
Other than that, it’s alright.?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jul-20 21:04:22

pamela that is kind.

I have decided it is a new inexperienced moderator and have decided to ignore the silliness.

There has been some good and surprising contributions. Good stuff.

PamelaJ1 Thu 02-Jul-20 20:58:47

It would be a shame to stop this thread . It’s such an important topic.
Please rise above it. If you got your GCE in English Language you can feel superior.
We often get our grammar and spelling wrong because we are in a hurry to get our point across or spell check ‘helps’ us.
HQ don’t have that excuse.
I didn’t pick up that there was anything in the title that would have upset anyone.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jul-20 18:36:19

And they will not “come settle” - dreadful English!

They may “Come AND settle”

I would prefer that you didn't put such a title under my username.

I am getter crosser by the minute perhaps you had better pull the thread as I didn’t write the wretched title.

Shame because there are some good contributions, but there we are.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jul-20 18:12:22

I’ve just had a mail from GNHQ saying that they considered the OP to be misleading and the narrative too antagonising!

I am now wondering if the moderators are of the snowflake generation!

It seems that our generation is made of sterner stuff and can adequately deal with any perceived antagonism.

I find this interference a tad irritating, but can live with such silliness.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jul-20 18:02:15

Not sure why GNHQ felt they needed to alter the title.

They will writing the threads for us soon!

PamelaJ1 Thu 02-Jul-20 17:09:59

At the moment the U.K. is home to more than 110,000 people from HK.
They tend to be more geographically dispersed than other migrants but most are in London and the southeast.
There is an alliance called the Five Eyes security alliance that includes us, the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Taiwan is also offering help. They are all offering refuge so the numbers coming here will not be as many as has been suggested.

Speaking to my DD in Sydney this morning she says that Australia are hoping that many will go there.*
Australia are also ramping up their defence spending to counter China’s rapid build up of it’s military presence in the Pacific area.

All this information has come from the Times and, of course , *my insider informant!

Callistemon Thu 02-Jul-20 16:02:40

It's true we are a small country but a small country that has in the past caused a great deal of division and conflict around the world. Now we have to pick up the pieces.
We have a duty of care.

maddyone Thu 02-Jul-20 15:59:18

Eloethan
Very well expressed. I agree completely.

Callistemon Thu 02-Jul-20 15:54:51

*3 million Chinese to come to live in the UK*
That's today's headline or would be

So it's not today's headline then?
confused

Not ever likely to be

janeainsworth Thu 02-Jul-20 15:50:54

At least some of those empty flats will be owned by Hongkong Chinese.
Not all those who choose to come here will be destitute or even hard up.

Callistemon Thu 02-Jul-20 15:27:40

Franbern

Ellenvannin - there are thousands of empty flats in the City of London - mostly owned by foreign investors who never come to them, just were buying them ready for prices to rise so they could sell them on. About time they were used.

Of course, they could find that prices have dropped and may drop even further!

JenniferEccles Thu 02-Jul-20 15:19:12

Although I do accept that it was the right thing to do, I sincerely hope all three million of them don’t decide to come here.

It’s probably unlikely especially now Australia has indicated it would take some, and it’s possible other countries will also offer help, but honestly, another *three million*people squashed onto our tiny island ?

I accept all the arguments about how a lot of them would be well educated qualified people who would be an asset to the country, but where will they all be housed?

The vast majority I suspect would chose to settle here in London and the south east, rather than quiet underpopulated areas of Scotland for instance.

Eloethan Thu 02-Jul-20 13:42:23

Well, yorkie, in my view it's a matter of reaping what you sow.

We colonised many parts of the world and subjugated their populations and exploited their labour and natural resources and created financial hubs for our own benefit. This happened to Hong Kong, which rightfully belonged to China. This has caused the populations of China and Hong Kong to have quite significant cultural differences, in particular, differences in their response to authority. It was always going to be difficult for the two parts of China to form a united whole.

I think it is right that this country offers residence to those people in Hong Kong who are entitled to it and who wish to take it up.

Quite a lot of British people also expressed resentment about the Ugandan Asians coming to this country but, again, it was the result of our own historical actions that brought it about. Uganda was under our control until its independence. According to many commentators, the British brought Asians to Uganda in order to form a buffer between the British rulers and African people. Asian people were given preferential treatment in terms of education and housing and Africans did most of the hard graft but saw little of the rewards. It was very much a "divide and rule" situation. The installation of Idi Amin as President of Uganda aided by the British as it was thought he would, having been trained here, treat Britain favourably. However, as resentment of the Asian population grew, Idi Amin expelled them.

It's true we are a small country but a small country that has in the past caused a great deal of division and conflict around the world. Now we have to pick up the pieces.

MaizieD Thu 02-Jul-20 12:28:21

Yorkie @ 11.43

I rest my case...

yorkie20 Thu 02-Jul-20 11:13:43

This is my sixpenneth.......I am NOT political in any way.
I dispair of this Country, we are a small island at breaking point and more people means even more waits for health care , housing, etc etc
I dont mind paying my way but I am sick of paying for other people as well.
rant over.....