Epstein/Maxwell/Prin ce Andrew

He served 13 months. On probation - violated on a daily basis.

No action was ever taken.

In prison. Epstein had his own cell whose door was left open. He had food that no other prisoner had and was on a 12 hour day work agreement, where he was out of the prison throughout that time where he engaged in sexual acts!!

Owned Little St James Virgin Islands. Nicknamed paedophile island.

2004 Andrew Windsor seen with a young girl in sexual foreplay by the pool, by an employee.

This meant that the victims voices were not heard. The government was complicit in this deal.

I think it was all done to protect the rich and powerful including politicians.

given immunity

Epstein like so many powerful people was a narcissist who needed to control the situation he is in.

In a surprise deal, before any court case Epstein pleaded guilty and what should have been a thirty year sentence, Epstein agreed to serve 18 months and give immunity against any further investigation along with all co- conspirators.

There was an immense amount of information to prosecute Epstein.
2008 - FBI - case stopped by US Attorney, after Epstein’s lawyers met the US Attorney.

Victims, attorneys and police were intimidated by Epstein.

Just like Saville, Epstein was reported time and again, and nothing was done.

You only have to have taken the time to read about the sex rings in Northern cities in the UK and the ways in which underage girls were drawn in, to know that exploitation is a devious process and escaping is far from easy once you're in the set up.

Time and time again those who have met Epstein described how Epstein was an extraordinarily charismatic figure, who always took powerful control of the situation.

That includes any friends businessmen and sexually abused children.

Maxwell was at the top of the pyramid scheme.

rosalyn then you don’t understand the psychology between a powerful rich middle aged experienced man using a sexual pyramid scheme and young adolescent.

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Every sexual act with a Epstein followed the same pattern so it was easy to work out if the girls were being truthful.

Many victims who were going to spill the beans, Maxwell phoned and threatened the girls with being hurt or worse if they continued.

Likewise Epstein paid off various publications not to publish.

I think that any fantasists amongst these girls would have been immediately obvious as they all told the same story. Each was able to exactly describe Epstein’s palm beach mansion, rooms and contents like massage table and instruments.

tickingbird is it OK then to have sex with under age girls as long as you do it in nice places? (and give them a nice present afterwards)

Maxwell helped recruit many of the girls and appears to have joined in sexual acts in some of the cases.

Many of the girls were trafficked by Epstein to politicians, rich and powerful.

I do hope there are not any fantasists, or people hoping to jump on the bandwagon for they will make it all the easier for the defence lawyers to paint genuine victims the same way. Whether one believes that PA was actively involved, or that he was 'just' arrogant and stupid enough to disregard the advice that we assume he was given, the fact remains that he socialised with people who had been convicted (in Epstein's case, at least) of crimes involving young girls. PA has two daughters and I just can't get my head around his ability to see his daughters and these girls, someone else's daughters, as being different.

It is a question of “girls” it is thousands of children.

Epstein lied from a very young age getting a teaching post in NY lying about the fact that he had a degree. He self styled his status as Professor.

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Sexual predators are good at identifying vulnerable victims and exploiting these young girls.

The adolescent brain is unable to deal with the exploitation that is involved.

The children, all girls ranged from 12 years old upwards.

Every child told exactly the same story. It usually began with a massage and it progressed from there. Money was exchanged.

Watching “Filthy Money” on Netflix.

Absolutely no one would say either Epstein or Maxwell are innocent, and that victims of their perversion are at fault.