Eat Out to Help Out.

growstuff

It must be so awful to witness people without smiling faces - a bit like having to witness the homeless in doorways if you live in a post part of town. How dreadful!

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suziewoozie

Jane whatever happened to Lara’s plea for us to me nicer to each other?

You already know the answer to that.

Jane whatever happened to Lara’s plea for us to me nicer to each other?

It’s really not my duty to go out to eat if a) I don’t feel safe and b) I don’t want the experience of dining in a COVId safe environment.

For those of you who have a Cote Brasserie in your area, I’ve been using their home delivery service which I can really recommend and which is continuing.

It must be so awful to witness people without smiling faces - a bit like having to witness the homeless in doorways if you live in a post part of town. How dreadful!

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Dinahmo

Peardrop50 Of course the VAT reduction is to help the customer. That's the whole point of it. Instead of paying £2 on top of a £10 bill you'll only be paying £5. Although because lots of smaller establishments will have VAT inclusive prices is anyone going to notice if the prices have changed?

I've just realised that I should have typed 50p not £5.

Alcohol is not part of the deal but if VAT is reduced then the pub landlord will be paying less for his brewery bill.

Will this be passed on to the customer?

I can see why people think it doesn't matter because it's helping the restaurant trade but a tax is a tax.

It's a bit like if you are self employed and the only way you can pay your income tax is to pay it in at a bank and the person behind the counter says, 'I'm a bit short this month so I'll have a bit of that'

Probably not the best of examples but it's all I can think of.

As I understand the issue with restaurants the deduction will be made from the bill if the restaurant participated in this scheme. It’s not a question of vouchers which can be passed on to others. It lasts for the month of August so may well benefit families during the school holiday which is always an expensive time of year.

Any increases in VAT have to be passed on to the customer so the retailer can still make a profit so any reduction should also be passed on. It's not their money, it's a tax. Customers should not be paying a tax which will not then be passed on to the IR

I was going to say something very similar Jane10

Isn’t all this negativity depressing?

Thank goodness in the real world they are in the minority.

Peardrop50 Of course the VAT reduction is to help the customer. That's the whole point of it. Instead of paying £2 on top of a £10 bill you'll only be paying £5. Although because lots of smaller establishments will have VAT inclusive prices is anyone going to notice if the prices have changed?

We are two of the lucky ones who could afford to eat out before and can afford to eat out again so any discount will certainly go in to the tip jar, I'm just hoping I can fit in to my big girls pants and brave the world beyond my garden.
The VAT is to benefit the business not the customer, I do hope that we all feel brave enough to support local cafes, restaurants and pubs as they offer many of life's pleasures to most of us.
I do think our government are doing a good job in trying to stimulate the economy but it is up to all of us to help by spending wherever we can if we can afford to do so.
I look forward to big infrastructure spending in the near future, creating employment opportunity, as our government get us through the pandemic and Brexit and follow through on their election manifesto.

We used to eat out 2 or 3 times each week before Covid do will be going out again in next couple of weeks. We often had a breakfast at weekend out, a lunch in a pub and a carvery dinner while we took child to cricket and had to wait 2 hours and too far to drive home and back.

I think we have to remember it’s up to the public whether or not they start to eat out. A few pounds off the bill is only going to appeal to those who were going to venture out anyway.

Those who are unsure are more likely to wait until they feel safer. Nothing that is said, especially mocking remarks, are going to encourage them.

They are under no obligation to eat out or win any wars.

growstuff

Dinahmo Some of us self-employed can't even claim any benefits, despite paying income tax and NICs - nothing, nada, zilch. Not all the 3 million are in that situation, but most are.

It's not just people not self-employed before 2019, but you have to have earned more from self-employment than from other sources for three years. So if it's taken time for the business to build and have worked as an employee or have a pension at the same time, you get nothing.

Yes I know, I have several clients who are caught by that. Those that are usually have some other source of income, such as the state pension or rental income. Some of them have started to set up their businesses before they actually retire so that they continue after they cease employment. However, they will have received tax relief on the cost of their equipment which might have resulted in a tax refund (if properly planned)

If I'd had a glass ball and could have seen into the future, I might have changed my mind about the amount of tax relief I was claiming for some clients and claimed a smaller amount over a longer period.

gg13 I do agree about Sunaks initial efforts, but he has disappointed over the last few days.

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Myself and AC will all use the eat out to help out offers. Anything to get the economy moving and start on the long and difficult road to recovery.

If it wasn't for Rishi Sunaks furlough scheme many more people would have lost their jobs and some business would no longer exist.

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They will still be trading on the other days though, Ellianne

You're correct August has 31 days MawB, but if we multiply 3 days by 4 weeks it only amounts to a couple of weeks. That was my thinking.

I had high hopes of Rishi too. But, I watched him on Breakfast this morning and was so disappointed in his replies regarding the poor man who 'slipped through the cracks'.

Ellianne

Clearly the timing of its implementation has been well thought out. By restricting it to a couple of weeks in August it should mean many eateries in tourist towns will be guaranteed the custom of visitors. They are the ones who have really suffered most.

Doesn’t August still have 31 days in it then?

I had high hopes of Sunak, but this latest set of announcements I find terribly disappointing and I am now worried for our country.