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Eat Out to Help Out.

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merlotgran Wed 08-Jul-20 13:45:09

Not sure how successful it's going to be for our age group.

I believe the discount scheme is only available during the month of August, Monday to Wednesday.

A lot of restaurants in our area (East Cambridgeshire) are closed. When they are up and running it will be the school holidays so I'm not sure I will feel safe eating in a restaurant with a lot of children. That's if we can get a booking in the first place.

Quite a few restaurants around here don't even open on a Monday.

How do we know the cut in VAT will be passed on to the customer?

hmm

Ellianne Thu 09-Jul-20 16:37:53

It really is "bread and circuses".

A bit like "qu'ils mangent de la brioche" then growstuff?

Moonlight113 Thu 09-Jul-20 16:36:54

No one thinks that thirteen days of trading is going to do anything for the recovery of any business.

It's a con. Don't fall for it. You may well regret it.

growstuff Thu 09-Jul-20 16:31:25

So if they're guaranteed business, they don't need additional support.

It's a waste of money, badly targeted and everybody (including those who can't make use of it) will have to pay.

The timing is absolutely rubbish. It's more like something which was dreamt up late at night in the HoC bar.

It really is "bread and circuses".

Moonlight113 Thu 09-Jul-20 16:26:32

The point of it is to lure the sensibly cautious out into the world of spending money again.

Three weeks is nothing at this time.

Look at the three pubs that had to close again.

Ellianne Thu 09-Jul-20 16:24:26

Clearly the timing of its implementation has been well thought out. By restricting it to a couple of weeks in August it should mean many eateries in tourist towns will be guaranteed the custom of visitors. They are the ones who have really suffered most.

growstuff Thu 09-Jul-20 16:22:28

Tax refunds for the lower paid do get spent.

growstuff Thu 09-Jul-20 16:20:03

MawB

growstuff

Can the people who can't benefit from the vouchers have a tax refund? They'll be paying for them, just like everybody else.

The vouchers and the latest furlough scheme are a waste of public money and should have been better targeted towards those businesses and individuals who need support.

In the context of the fuss which was made in extending the £15 a week free school dinner scheme for six weeks, the vouchers are a cynical disgrace.

The point is to give a shot in the arm to the hospitality industry which needs all the support it can get not just to put money in your or my pocket by way of a tax refund and to those who say nobody should be eating out at the moment may I point out that we have another 3 weeks until it is implemented.

I realise that, so support the small businesses which need it, not the big corporations like MacDonalds and Weatherspoons. The hospitality employees could continue to receive support via the furlough scheme. It is a waste of money and badly targeted.

PS. I won't be going out in three weeks either. I can't afford it.

Flygirl Thu 09-Jul-20 16:20:00

We have a Tastecard so get BOGOF anyway!! £10 off each is not much of a deal if you eat at a decent restaurant ....I wonder where Rishi Sunak eats then, if he thinks that's a good deal? ?

growstuff Thu 09-Jul-20 16:16:28

Dinahmo Some of us self-employed can't even claim any benefits, despite paying income tax and NICs - nothing, nada, zilch. Not all the 3 million are in that situation, but most are.

It's not just people not self-employed before 2019, but you have to have earned more from self-employment than from other sources for three years. So if it's taken time for the business to build and have worked as an employee or have a pension at the same time, you get nothing.

MawB Thu 09-Jul-20 16:14:35

growstuff

Can the people who can't benefit from the vouchers have a tax refund? They'll be paying for them, just like everybody else.

The vouchers and the latest furlough scheme are a waste of public money and should have been better targeted towards those businesses and individuals who need support.

In the context of the fuss which was made in extending the £15 a week free school dinner scheme for six weeks, the vouchers are a cynical disgrace.

The point is to give a shot in the arm to the hospitality industry which needs all the support it can get not just to put money in your or my pocket by way of a tax refund and to those who say nobody should be eating out at the moment may I point out that we have another 3 weeks until it is implemented.

growstuff Thu 09-Jul-20 16:11:05

Can the people who can't benefit from the vouchers have a tax refund? They'll be paying for them, just like everybody else.

The vouchers and the latest furlough scheme are a waste of public money and should have been better targeted towards those businesses and individuals who need support.

In the context of the fuss which was made in extending the £15 a week free school dinner scheme for six weeks, the vouchers are a cynical disgrace.

Moonlight113 Thu 09-Jul-20 16:08:14

No one should be going to restaurants or pubs at the moment.

Make a plan based on looking after your own safety, not to help the economy. Is it really worth endangering your life or your future health for a few quid?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Jul-20 15:54:35

I guess he’ll be next to leave.

Cummings has him in his sights no doubt.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Jul-20 15:52:11

I see the head of HMRC is requiring a ministerial direction before he carries out instructions from Sunak, as he considers the plans outlined by Sunak are a waste of tax payers money.

Dinahmo Thu 09-Jul-20 15:45:39

Can someone please explain why the hospitality industry needs so much support? First it was the pubs re-opening and now it's restaurants that we're being encouraged to go to. With the bribe of a maximum deduction of £10. So, it's aimed at the masses. No one's going to get a deduction from their bill at a more expensive restaurant, even if they go at lunchtime.

According to Sunak up to 2 million are employed n the hospitality sector. What about the 3 million self employed who have fallen through the net because they weren't in self employment before 5 April 2019? They've got nothing, apart from what they can claim in benefits.

MindfulGrandma Thu 09-Jul-20 14:57:52

Jane 10 I believe the voucher is only for England and frankly I think it is a publicity stunt. At a time when food banks are experiencing enormous demand, it takes a football player to insist on meal provision for poor children and NHS staff are being asked in England to pay for parking again I think there are better ways of spending money.

25Avalon Thu 09-Jul-20 14:53:51

Sorry about that Woodmouse49. I live in Somerset and can either click and collect from Clifton in Bristol or get delivery from Wells if I order online and provided my order is over £30 I get free delivery. Are there any stockists in Cornwall as the odd supermarket and even a shop connected to a garage up here stock a limited range?

Bluecat Thu 09-Jul-20 14:46:15

I don't see the point.

People who are keen to start dining out are going to do it anyway. Nobody needed a discount to get them down to the pub. Those who feel it still isn't safe enough aren't going to be lured out by ten quid off the bill.

Personally, I won't be going to restaurants any time soon. Dinner with a side order of possible death? Yummy. Who could resist?

Kim19 Thu 09-Jul-20 14:36:04

Yes, as someone who used lunch out regularly, I will certainly avail myself of this inducement. Only hope it becomes available in some of the venues I like to frequent. I also wonder if some establishments which used to close on Mondays will re-consider that even if only for the period of the incentive.

merlotgran Thu 09-Jul-20 13:50:34

I do agree with some of the concerns about the obesity crisis. Most of these vouchers will be used in fast food chains, pizza restaurants etc.

It's only for a month but some people just don't heed any health warnings.

EthelJ Thu 09-Jul-20 13:42:14

How do we know the cut in VAT will be passed on to the customer?
The cut in VAT is not for the customer it is to help the business. I wouldn't expect it to mean lower prices. Many businesses are going bankrupt this is to make it a bit easier for them to stay in business which wil help the economy and in turn all of us.
Re the vouchers I can't see me using one. I just don't feel confident enough to eat in a restaurant at the moment and £10 off won't charge that

Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Jul-20 13:12:37

Head of HMRC together with the IFS have severely criticised Sunaks budget. Arguing that he is wasting tax payers money on what they term “dead areas” where money if being given to businesses that would survive anyway is being trousered without any discernible gain to the economy.

Stella14 Thu 09-Jul-20 12:58:38

No, hubby and I are anticipating another wave by August due to the incompetence of our Government.

JenniferEccles Thu 09-Jul-20 12:57:58

It’s encouraging to see that at least some on here are intending to support these businesses.

Isn’t it a kind of duty we have now?
We have done our duty over the past few months by staying at home, and now the need is surely for us to do our own little bit to try to prevent possibly millions of job losses.

I am normally the last person to subscribe to the inevitable doom and gloom predictions which have arisen for everything from the dire threats of what voting Leave would do to the country to a similar scenario for us all if the Conservatives won the election!

I am always a glass half full person to use the cliche, but even I am really alarmed at what the future holds if too many of us are too scared to go shopping in town centres, and nervous at the prospect of eating out again.

Yes I have sympathy for those with serious health issues and can understand that they would prefer to play safe and avoid those places, but surely the majority of the population is reasonably fit and healthy enough to get out again?

After all, life is a risk isn’t it?

Even our armchairs are a risk to our health if we sit in them too long scoffing all the cakes which presumably have been baked in their many thousands judging by the empty flour aisles in supermarkets!

123kitty Thu 09-Jul-20 12:48:58

Can't wait. Pity so many restaurants are closed on mondays!