CAREN Act To Stop Racially Motivated Police Calls Proposed By California Lawmaker

I don't believe it profiles white middle aged women in general Chewbacca just a certain type of woman I personally don't want to be associated with, although I would never use that term to discribe them.

Bloody well said Chewbacca

That would be good except their is no "Caren" movement. It is actually known as "Karen", not Caren. And the definition of "a Karen" is:

Karen is a pejorative term used in the United States and other English-speaking countries for a woman perceived to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is considered appropriate or necessary. A common stereotype is that of a racist white woman who uses her privilege to demand her own way at the expense of others. Depictions also include demanding to "speak to the manager", being an anti-vaxxer, or having a particular bob cut hairstyle. As of 2020, the term was increasingly being used as a general-purpose term of disapproval for middle-aged white women.

So the use of this term is pejorative against those women who happen to be called Karen; is misogynistic and unfairly racially profiles white, middle aged women. Not much to like about it really.

Is there another way to look at this?

KAREN, a term used by some to describe women who display privileged, overbearing or racist behaviour (which is a problem among women that we need to address to make it go away) which is obviously quite unfair to nice women named Karen.

Has become

CAREN, an act to make it a criminal offence to call the police unjustly on individuals who are breaking no laws or simply existing in spaces they have every right to be in. Which is a positive thing and not a negative.

That's not at all predictable. How many times have we heard this. Be quiet women, it's not the right time, your needs are not important.
I am able to have concern about racism, unemployment and call out misogyny when I see it.

It's an ongoing process and currently while the tides for change are running high every opportunity to make a difference is being taken advantage of and I don't mean take advantage in a bad way-

Karen might fall by the wayside and be referred to as something else in time- But everything is happening so fast and it's more important to get the law in place than what to call it-

The stimulus package/s is/was a cluster-f***- And unemployment- Celebrities filed for small business loans and received millions .. while millions struggle to feed their families- Moratoriums to protect renters and home owners are being lifted which could result in 28 million homeless people and about 30% of restaurants across the country are expected to close permanently- Cases of covid are rising- And rabid racists are crawling out of the woodwork ..

It's really a huge mess .. Karen is the least of my concerns .. but only at the moment ..

Eloethan my favourite part was when she said she knew the homeowner.

Is it only white women who make false accusations against black people? In the case of the man stencilling "Black Lives Matter" on the wall of his property, there were two people involved - a husband and a wife. Although the wife was the person who primarily spoke to the householder, she was backed up by her husband. Presumably she had the idea that her carefully mannered, patronising tone and her frequent use of the word "sir" to address the householder would demonstrate what a cultured and reasonable person she was. I don't know how that householder kept his cool - underneath it all he must have been fuming but he dealt with the situation brilliantly.

What this couple and other people have done is despicable but why give this sort of behaviour a woman's name? I think it is cruel and misogynistic. Primarily, though, it turns the issue of racism into a sort of cartoon character (and a female one at that) and in so doing trivialises a very serious issue.

rosecarmel I expect police time is wasted in a lot of different ways and should be punished. However, these particular examples of wasting police time have a strong racial dimension and should be called out for what they are - racism in action. It, in effect, reinforces and takes advantage of a racist stereotype to target an individual or group, thus having the potential to put them in a very dangerous situation.

What on earth are these people on about. All you Karen’s be proud, we don’t have to follow America, what a lot of rubbish, be careful, soon we will be blamed for what we are thinking.

Gagajo I'm just watching quietly, obviously a lot of focus on the immediate issues we face at the moment. He certainly has a strong presense and interested to see how he does on other issues. Keeping my mind open.

rosecarmel

MawB

rosecarmel

Ok, boomer means Ok, boomer- Not all gransnetters- Clearly- ? Nice try tho ..

So who?

Karen- Bwa hahaha! ?

Hahaha!!!

What was the generation before boomers? I’m generation X.

Boomer, along with woke, have died a death in every sense (other than ironic). I’m sure Karen will soon go the same way.

I’d like to think you were right Starblaze, but I have a nasty feeling Starmer might be Blair mk2.

MawB

rosecarmel

MawB

rosecarmel

Ok, boomer means Ok, boomer- Not all gransnetters- Clearly- ? Nice try tho ..

So who?

Karen- Bwa hahaha! ?

I’m joining all those who might thinking of saying (yet again)
“What on earth does that mean”

Joining all those with Pied Piper Syndrome?

However, if people in a discussion are focused on twisting what I say or assigning meaning to my words that aren't there, or just generally looking for ways to shut me down personally it becomes pointless for me.

Come on Starblaze that's neither true nor fair! A discussion goes both ways and when someone, anyone, makes a statement of opinion it's not unreasonable for other people to ask for clarification. No one is trying to "shut you down" or "twisting" anything and it's disingenuous to suggest that.

Well, I am of the opinion that there isn’t any real point or meaning in all the pronouncements coming thick and fast starblaze and rosecarmel.If there was, you would be saying so.

rosecarmel

MawB

rosecarmel

Ok, boomer means Ok, boomer- Not all gransnetters- Clearly- ? Nice try tho ..

So who?

Karen- Bwa hahaha! ?

I’m joining all those who might thinking of saying (yet again)
“What on earth does that mean”

MawB

rosecarmel

Ok, boomer means Ok, boomer- Not all gransnetters- Clearly- ? Nice try tho ..

So who?

Karen- Bwa hahaha! ?

I love a good debate, even when it ends up that I am wrong, I've learned something.

However, if people in a discussion are focused on twisting what I say or assigning meaning to my words that aren't there, or just generally looking for ways to shut me down personally it becomes pointless for me.

I'm just chatting, not waving around points like sharp sticks

Its a shame *shrug

rosecarmel

Ok, boomer means Ok, boomer- Not all gransnetters- Clearly- ? Nice try tho ..

So who?

Starblaze

Don't give up GagaJo I think we are seeing the last hurrah of the right and that's why it's so LOUD. I think the balance is going to permanently tip the other way soon

Why would you think that?
‘The last hurrah of the right’......where, who? This sounds like a newspaper soundbite, can you explain what you mean?

Oh dear, careful you don't take anyone's eye out with it

What does that even mean?

Ok, boomer means Ok, boomer- Not all gransnetters- Clearly- ? Nice try tho ..

rosecarmel

Callistemon

I think they're on a losing streak here, Gagajo
Sorry.

Calling these people "Karen" was a big mistake by whoever decided it was a good idea.
It will antagonise more people than will be sympathetic, unfortunately.

Let what goes on in America should stay in America.
If it should start over here then I hope anyone rying it will be charged with wasting police time.

Ok, boomer-

Erm you did?

Callistemon

rosecarmel

Callistemon

Why not call them Rosecarmels?

Isn't Carmel in California?

Or simply American -- as previously suggested- Since they are one in the same-

Which suggests all Karens are the same- As well as all African Americans-

I suppose if people have small feet they don't mind habitually sticking them in their mouth ..

I think you've got my point rosecarmel!!

Like calling Gransnetters boomers when many are not.

Who called gransnetters boomers?

Starblaze

Oh dear, careful you don't take anyone's eye out with it

Obscurer than ever

Oh dear, careful you don't take anyone's eye out with it