Leavers. Were you absolutely clear that a no deal Brexit would mean job losses?

Yes Davidhs lets hope!

With our struggling economy weakened by Covid and Brexit uncertainty, can we afford to distance from China now?

They have a lot invested in U.K. infrastructure, and our leading universities, for example.

We will be cut off from privileged access to EU market, vulnerable in the US market whose economy works in a protectionist way. and alienating ourselves from China, the biggest source of growth in the world.

I guess letting the US intimidate us into the Huawei boycott is all part of cozying up to get some sort of credibility out of Brexit. Oh, wait a minute the Chinese are building us a new nuclear power station at Hinkley Point, let’s hope that works out.

I dare say that most Brexiters were very keen for the U.K. to take back control.

The trouble is we seem to have given it to the USA.

And after that we will give it to next country we want to do a deal with and on and on it will go.

Urmstongran

I daresay fish swim from sea to sea but the territorial waters around our coast are under our jurisdiction. What’s in them on a particular day is a moot point.

Fishing stocks don't work like that!!

I daresay fish swim from sea to sea but the territorial waters around our coast are under our jurisdiction. What’s in them on a particular day is a moot point.

Overfishing is a problem worldwide but Northern European waters are controlled quite well in comparison to other areas. Norway and Iceland are very strict because their fishing industries are very important. The EU and U.K. need to restrict industrial fishing that rake the sea bed hovering everything up to provide fish food for salmon farms.

Good post vegan

I remembering talking to a fisherman here on the south coast and everything he catches goes to the EU.

Overfishing in those huge factory boats has depleted fish numbers everywhere. We don’t own fish - they can swim from one country’s waters to another. The whole notion of “our” fish is ridiculous. It’s the exploitation of the natural world that has brought devastation to the planet and oceans. We shouldn’t be trumpeting an industry which contributes so much to pollution anyway. The number of British owned boats/ British workers on said boats is minuscule. Cleaning up fishing and agriculture is way more important.

A lot of the cod and cold water fish we eat is caught in Icelandic and Norwegian waters, by their fishing fleets, as has been said a lot of fish we have is exported.

Urmstongran

I read our waters are plentiful with fish because global warming (I think) has raised the temperature of the seas around us by a degree or two.

The opposite is more likely.

Whatever was said or wasn't we have to deal with the present, the country is in a desperate state, particularly our young because of this Pandemic, we have to be pro active and positive to encourage people. In every depression you get those that will make a million but millions who will find it a struggle pto find a job.

Most of the fish we catch in our waters is sold to the EU; they eat 'funny' fish

Though, remembering what fish was sold in my young days (near the Essex coast), our choice seems more restricted now, apart from where there is a more diverse population with a 'wider' taste in fish.

It was a cheap option, too. It certainly isn't now.

Global warming doesn't help the supplies of the fish we actually eat in the UK. Cod and Haddock are cold water species. Back to the Cod wars of the 70s.

I read our waters are plentiful with fish because global warming (I think) has raised the temperature of the seas around us by a degree or two.

maybe that’s what I thought as well

I’m happy to be corrected on this but was of the opinion that fish stocks were plentiful purely because of EU regulations that prevent over fishing. And I thought one of the species that was under threat but is now ok are plaice.

Our fishing industry accounts for 0.1% of our GDP.

I see we’ve caved into the USA over Haiwei.

The UK is to get control of fisheries in our Territorial Waters not just coastal waters, it is a very large area and large seagoing trawlers are needed for that.

Europe in indeed not a country, it is much more and acts with one voice so there is no distinction.

Jabberwok “ There are other countries in the world apart from Europe”
Guess what - Europe isn’t a country

The fishing industry is not one that wears a halo- most of the plastic rubbish in the sea is dumped there by fishing boats. The decimation of fish species down to fishing industry, diseases in fish ditto. Could go on. Fishing is a teeny part of our economy. Why Farage and go think it’s worth trashing the rest of the economy to get a few more fish is incomprehensible. Scotland has way more of the industry than England- more reason for independence.

When I was young fish was eaten much more than it is today. Every town had a fishmonger with fresh fish of all sorts. We always had fish at least once a week, herring, mackrel, plaice and lots more. It would be nice to see it all back, if not, well no doubt exporting will be the answer until, perhaps, we get a taste for it again! There are other countries in the world apart from Europe!

Not immediately as building up our decimated fishing industry will take time! After allowing stocks to recover and with proper management the future for our fishermen should look bright. Even the EU admits that the quotas are fundamentally flawed and the environmental issues are a disaster ! Those huge trawlers should be banned from day one before they completely destroy marine life, wreck the sea bed and dredge the sea dry of fish and everything else they plough up. Other counties won't allow them inside their waters and neither should we.

Gill
I have dug a little deeper onto Scottish fishing quota it is owned by millionaires - trawler and processing factory owners. As modern trawlers cost £10m plus they do need to be pretty well heeled, it seems to me to be logical that trawler owners hold the quota.