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I love the statue that has replaced the slave trader

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 15-Jul-20 19:42:08

Wonder how long the far right will let it stand?

flopen Thu 16-Jul-20 07:42:45

I think anyone who can't be bothered to read the blm manifesto, and spends their time flailing around insulting posters who disagree with them, without answering the points they make need to stop and listen.
Do you believe that all prisons should be closed, that the police should be refunded, and that the nuclear family is a bad thing ?
Blm does.
Try answering that, instead of slagging people off

Gajahgran Thu 16-Jul-20 07:42:18

The Bristol mayor is Marvin Rees, Quinn created the statue

Furret Thu 16-Jul-20 07:37:44

flopen

I suggest that you read their manifesto more carefully, whitewave

I suggest you stop telling intelligent people what to do.

Furret Thu 16-Jul-20 07:37:03

“The subject matter is powerful, a local voice, a remarkable woman being represented,” said Marvin Quinn, Bristol’s mayor.

flopen Thu 16-Jul-20 07:36:06

I suggest that you read their manifesto more carefully, whitewave

Furret Thu 16-Jul-20 07:35:15

Grandad1943

It is well that the illegally placed statue has now been removed by Bristol City Council and placed at the same site as that of the statue of Colston.

The illegal pillar was not properly secured to the plinth which it was hoisted onto, and therefore it was, without doubt, a public safety hazard, and that undoubtedly is one of the reasons why it has been removed so quickly.

The figure represented no one of any consequence in the anti-slavery movement, and the person it represented had stated that it was a tribute to Black Lives Matter (BLM).

As BLM is an organisation with anarchist intentions it could not be allowed to remain where it had been placed in the eyes of very many I feel.

So predictable

Whitewavemark2 Thu 16-Jul-20 07:32:40

Grandad1943

It is well that the illegally placed statue has now been removed by Bristol City Council and placed at the same site as that of the statue of Colston.

The illegal pillar was not properly secured to the plinth which it was hoisted onto, and therefore it was, without doubt, a public safety hazard, and that undoubtedly is one of the reasons why it has been removed so quickly.

The figure represented no one of any consequence in the anti-slavery movement, and the person it represented had stated that it was a tribute to Black Lives Matter (BLM).

As BLM is an organisation with anarchist intentions it could not be allowed to remain where it had been placed in the eyes of very many I feel.

It could have been made secure.

Your glib statement asserting that BLM is an organisation with anarchist tendencies has no basis in fact, which suggests that you are willing to dismiss an organisation formed to promote diversity, empathy and restorative justice amongst other aims. None suggest anarchy and all suggest reconciliation and cooperation..

Grandad1943 Thu 16-Jul-20 07:21:49

It is well that the illegally placed statue has now been removed by Bristol City Council and placed at the same site as that of the statue of Colston.

The illegal pillar was not properly secured to the plinth which it was hoisted onto, and therefore it was, without doubt, a public safety hazard, and that undoubtedly is one of the reasons why it has been removed so quickly.

The figure represented no one of any consequence in the anti-slavery movement, and the person it represented had stated that it was a tribute to Black Lives Matter (BLM).

As BLM is an organisation with anarchist intentions it could not be allowed to remain where it had been placed in the eyes of very many I feel.

GagaJo Thu 16-Jul-20 07:10:35

If you think anarchy is putting a bit of resin on a plinth, I expect equal rights are anathema to you too.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 16-Jul-20 07:07:54

If I was Mayor I would have allowed it to remain as an act of reconciliation until a decision/vote on what the folk of Bristol would like to replace the slave trader.

It would have been a good decision recognised for what it was.

Gajahgran Thu 16-Jul-20 07:07:38

Well said Sparkling. Plenty of good people who deserve a statue not somebody who took part in a destructive mob..

GagaJo Thu 16-Jul-20 07:05:53

She was a symbol. Everywoman, or at least everywoman who stood up for equal rights. As opposed to a man who sold humans as chattels.

Kandinsky Thu 16-Jul-20 07:04:47

Let the people of Bristol decide.
You can’t illegally erect a statue of a complete nobody and expect everyone to just say ...‘oh, okay then’
hmm

ladymuck Thu 16-Jul-20 07:04:32

Putting up a statue without official permission is itself a form of vandalism. This organisation has got away with far too much already. Unless we start enforcing the law, we're heading for complete anarchy.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 16-Jul-20 07:02:12

The woman whose image it is won’t be remotely surprised at its removal, nor will all the other BAME folk in the U.K.

Sparkling Thu 16-Jul-20 07:00:52

White wave, I am very far from far right I can assure you, but I don't agree with mob mentality, what happened in Bristol was disgraceful..I don't like this new statue I could think of better to be honest. It is up to the people of Bristol to decide not some mob. It has just caused a lot of work and expense in the biggest economic crisis this country has known due to the pandemic as well as endangering our police. So no the statue should not stand, charges for criminal damages should be made over the wanton destruction. Violence is never an answer, as it just breeds more.

flopen Thu 16-Jul-20 06:42:34

Well, it's gone now.

EllanVannin Wed 15-Jul-20 22:48:40

Yes, Captain Tom or/and the old man who tends a site where young American airmen lost their lives when their plane came down to avoid hitting little children playing nearby.
Tony Foulds is the man's name. What loyalty this man has shown to those who saved his life while he played, and 10 men lost their lives in the process.

rubysong Wed 15-Jul-20 22:40:51

It is a beautiful statue and very like the lady herself (sorry, I can't remember her name). I am just uneasy about the raised fist. That is a very provocative gesture and not inclined to bring peace and harmony.

NanKate Wed 15-Jul-20 22:35:46

I agree EllanV.

Captain Tom Moore would get my vote.

Furret Wed 15-Jul-20 22:23:56

There’s lots of scope. All welcome regardless of creed, colour, age, sex or sexual orientation and social status.

Once all the nasty statues are melted down then a whole new generation of new ones can be re-cast. Isn’t there one of Margaret Thatcher somewhere that has outlived it’s welcome?,

EllanVannin Wed 15-Jul-20 22:16:16

Children are our future.
How about honouring those children who've raised thousands of pounds ? That little boy who was abused so badly that his legs had to be amputated.

I want to see commemorative statues/plaques of those who've raised thousands with their acts of kindness, not someone who represents aggression with a fist in the air.

Furret Wed 15-Jul-20 22:13:09

Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder. What’s there not to like - the statue depicts a strong women who just happens to be black?

Or is it simply the fact that some prefer what stood there before?

Jaycee5 Wed 15-Jul-20 22:09:23

The fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square was first occupied illegally by the figure of David Beckham from Madam Tussauds.
At first the authorities were cross but then realised that people liked it and now the plinth is a feature with interesting things on it.
Art is not something that people should allow to get stuffy. It should be something that people interact with.
There is no reason this can't stay up until the Council decides what to replace it with. Of course a lot of people won't like it. A lot don't like Banksy but there are many that do like street art and that is what this is. Reactive art which is usually temporary as this will be, but it will hopefully be moved somewhere else it can be seen. Maybe wherever Colston ends up. Plenty of people didn't like his statue either right from the beginning.
It is a shame that so many can't just lighten up and go with it.

Dollymc2 Wed 15-Jul-20 21:58:51

It's symbolic
I love it
I don't think it's going to be permanent, which is a shame