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Cronyism - a step too far

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winterwhite Sun 02-Aug-20 10:23:26

Been preoccupied for a couple of days so sorry if I've missed something - have searched unsuccessfully.
Does anyone else find it disgraceful that the prime minister should have promoted his own brother in last week's honours list? Did no one tell him what a misuse of power this is? Are Conservative party members content with a leader who behaves in this way?
Plenty of other fault for critics to find with the list I know, but for blatant corruption this seems in a class of its own.

varian Sun 02-Aug-20 19:51:48

Yes. It is blatant corruption, but what can we do about it?

GagaJo Sun 02-Aug-20 19:54:08

The electorate is powerless in the face of their corruption and misuse of power unfortunately.

varian Sun 02-Aug-20 19:57:23

We need to campaign for a proper democracy- start by supporting electoral reform

maddyone Sun 02-Aug-20 20:26:18

Answer to OP is yes, I do.
I don’t agree with the honours system at all.

lemongrove Sun 02-Aug-20 22:38:21

I agree maddy and yes, it’s cronyism to promote your brother to the Lords and just the same for promoting your friends.They all do it ......both Conservative and Labour PM’s are every bit as bad where it is concerned.

lemongrove Sun 02-Aug-20 22:40:05

So in answer to your question Winterwhite ....Johnson is no worse in this regard.Until the honours system is stopped it will continue this way.

maddyone Sun 02-Aug-20 22:49:48

It won’t only continue lemon, in my very humble opinion it’s actually got worse in in recent years. I think it was someone on Gransnet that pointed out that there are now 200 more people in the HofLs than a few years ago.

winterwhite Mon 03-Aug-20 10:26:53

Thanks for these responses and I agree with those saying that the honours system should be abolished. But I don't think that several wrongs make the next one that comes along any more excusable, and re my specific point about nepotism I disagree in friendly spirit Lemongrove . I do think promoting one's own brother takes cronyism to a new level of shamelessness.

MaizieD Mon 03-Aug-20 11:49:22

They all do it ......both Conservative and Labour PM’s are every bit as bad where it is concerned

That is as lazy and useless a saying as 'all politicians lie', or, 'they're only in it for what they can get out of it'are.

It is usual to give peerages to people who have achieved something in their lives and who have showngreat competence in their field. Naturally tories promote other tories and Labour and Lib Dems go for people distinguished in their parties.

This list is not distinguished by much of that sort of consideration. To give peerages to the son of a KGB officer, to his own brother (who has done... what?), to a supporter of the IRA and child pornography, and to someone who has merely donated a lot of money to the tories is an abuse of the system.

MaizieD Mon 03-Aug-20 12:15:59

Interesting commentary here. Particularly in regard to Claire Fox

Tories remain so spellbound by Boris Johnson’s populist takeover of their party that they remain silent as he trashes their values, drives out talent, allows an unelected adviser to run amok and displays ineptitude with fatal consequences amid the pandemic. Yet every now and then comes an act that should cause any decent Conservative to stop and ponder what has happened to their party – and one such moment came last week with Johnson’s despatch of some pals and paymasters into the House of Lords.

But consider the case of Claire Fox, who illustrates the corrosion being caused to the Conservative Party, just as Trump is damaging the Republican brand. Here is a person who carefully built a career as a “controversialist” by exploiting media frenzy for divisive outrage and shocking opinion. This ensured she first became a fixture on the bumbling BBC, then briefly an MEP by riding on Nigel Farage’s coat-tails. Now she has been rewarded by fellow Brexiteer Johnson with a peerage, lifetime membership of the country’s finest club and attendance “expenses” of £313 a day.

Fox poses as a defender of free speech, prepared to say the unsayable, yet much of what she says is simply unspeakable.

She emerged as part of a small Trotskyite splinter group called the Revolutionary Communist Party that discovered the value in constant contrariness and ended up indistinguishable from hard-right ideologues. She helped run their magazine called Living Marxism, which had to shut down after it accused ITV journalists who exposed some of the worst atrocities on European soil since the Second World War of fabricating their evidence. This cabal was so desperate for attention that during the Iraq War it did not just oppose the foolish misadventure but rooted for Saddam Hussein against British troops. After the 1993 Warrington bombing, which killed two children and left 50 casualties, it defended “the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures are necessary in their struggle for freedom”. No wonder Colin Parry, that dignified father of a 12-year-old boy murdered in the abhorrent attack, condemned her peerage and lack of apology as something that ‘offends me and many others deeply.’

In her self-styled guise as a freedom fighter, Fox once defended the right of the pop star Gary Glitter to download child pornography against snowflakes who think that such depravity only fuels the abuse of minors, (although she later said she sees paedophilia as ‘disgusting.’) She supported a reggae singer’s right to encourage in song the killing of gay men. She argues in support of climate deniers, does not think we face a climate emergency and has, of course, attacked multiculturalism.