Political Correctness or just ridiculous

Ha!!
Why won't they respond to me, then?

Not so good customer relations.

callistermon I'm afraid that's just your opinion, not facts

Facts are:

Someone was offended

M&S dealt with it

That's not a hoo-ha, it's good customer relations

But if M and S had given it any thought they might realise tobacco is not a great product to associate a brand with.

Starblaze

Who really is creating a hoo-ha though?

There's was a problem, it was dealt with.. That's certainly not a hoo-ha

So who is creating this one out of nothing?

The woman who created the fuss in the first place.

M&S for giving in to a ridiculous over-reaction to something that was no more than description of a colour based on a crop which is still farmed, harvested, cured and made into little sticks today which people can choose to use or not.

That's fair enough vegansrock. I'm not fond of the colour Charlotte's Locks but they seem to sell plenty of it.

I’m not offended by the term tobacco brown, I just think it’s horrible and it would put me off buying.

So who is creating this one out of nothing?

Those who think that the colour tobacco can be offensive??

That's ridiculous. Some people will take offence at anything.

Need you ask Pantglas? Of course you should! Here you are. Climb on. awaits howls of protests that this picture is witchist.

Who really is creating a hoo-ha though?

There's was a problem, it was dealt with.. That's certainly not a hoo-ha

So who is creating this one out of nothing?

I recently purchased two white cotton rich bras from Marks.....given the hoo-ha, should I be on the ducking stool?

I had an eye shadow called 'cement.' Not an attractive name and it didn't represent the colour at all, which I liked.

Brown is a colour, white is a colour, black is a colour. They have tones/shades and I do not relate them to the individual, the person I suppose when purchasing bras, perhaps I should. However where does it stop and end?

Somebody with Rosecca could decide a bra called Strawberry/Red Flush should be renamed as they equally find upset by it's description and ask for an apology, after all the colour of our skin is individual to us all it is not the domain of only one homogeneous group/race. See that comment as a throw away as you may but if there is a genuine concern for how individuals of all skin types/colours feel then it is perfectly a reasonable point to make. If only one skin type/colour is to be spoken of then that points to where the debate by some wish it to stay.

White/Black however by their nature are not given to a wide varience in shading but brown is.

Did the M&S merchandising team look at their brown range of bras and conscientiously decide they were only for women of that colour to purchase or a brown range of bras for All women to purchase? If the range was produced and marketed as a range for women of a specific colour then I suppose the descriptive name matters.

Was the brown bra range produced and merchandised purely as a range of brown coloured bras for the general population I see absolutely no offence in the description Tobacco Coloured.

Callistemon I do know that fag ash is not the colour of tobacco but that's what I would think of if selecting an item described as tobacco.

Mind you, the colour of the bra is not that so ?‍♀️

So why couldn't M&S use golden brown

Out of interest and ignorance, I looked up colour of tobacco. The wiki page my search took me to described it as golden-brown, a colour many people wish they were.

Midnight fag end.


Or fag butt? Or is that ambiguous?

Hot Chocolate?
I wonder what Errol Brown would be thinking.

Something a bit more exotic.
Midnight fag end.

Peardrop50

If I saw any product referred as tobacco coloured I would not be attracted to it and underwear, even less so. Who would feel sexy in a colour found in an ashtray
Poor marketing rather than the intention to offend.
However, if it did offend, then yes, give it some thought.
Deep caramel, mocha, rich brown, smooth chocolate, dark velvet, lots of choice.

But it's not a colour found in an ashtray.
Have you ever seen cured tobacco leaves?

Earth is a good colour?

It would surely upset and offend someone, somewhere though! Those perpetually looking for offence will find it.

Great to see you back POGS! You've been sorely missed!

The point being made was that the colour is used to describe the skin tone it matches. So absolutely, why would anyone wish to be described as "tobacco coloured"?

I have quite a flushed complexion these days; maybe a bra to match my skin tone could be called "pimple coloured".
Great selling point eh!!

Difficult to find names POGS. I looked up paint charts and Farrow and Ball have a paint called Broccoli Brown - how on earth do they arrive at that? Earth is a good colour?.