the only real difference

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It's not the mail itself it's the people who are commenting on the story.

Exactly.
There are always some bigoted and horrible people/comments on any subject, even tragic drownings ,
If I were you biba I wouldn’t read a newspaper you disapprove of and especially not any comments by the readers.
It was a really sad story which we can all empathise with.

Many European nations, and in particular Britain, built their ealth on invading countries, brutalising/murdering/subjugating their indigenous peoples, imposing their own cultural norms, stealing their natural resources, etc, etc. We reap what we have sown and I find it ironic that large sections of the British public so self-righteously speak of "illegals" "invading" our land

I think an apology is in order from you for making such an inaccurate, outrageous claim.

If apologies for inaccuracies are in order I think it should be you making your apologies for posting inaccurate rubbish about the status of the poor child who lost his life, JE.

Asylum seekers/refugees are not 'illegal'. Crossing the Channel in a small boat is not 'illegal', nor is landing in any country. Any 'illegality' which may arise is if the asylum seeker applies for asylum (which has to be done in the country), is refused asylum and then does not leave.

All this hysteria about 'illegality' completely ignores international law and is designed to whip up hatred for fellow humans who have suffered hardships which most people cannot begin to imagine.

There were some, to be fair, JE but not the majority.

biba70 you were totally wrong when you claimed that the DM
was celebrating the death of the migrant.

Neither were there any comments remotely like that from readers.

I think an apology is in order from you for making such an inaccurate, outrageous claim.

And from what I saw, the vast majority were exactly that. Not celebratory at all.

Yes, it's dreadful enough without reading the views of idiots.
Unbearable to think about.

So that they can be outraged Callistemon? As if the incident itself isn't outrageous, shocking and sad enough.

Why would anyone read the comments?

I never scroll down to read the comments of bigoted people any more than I pay much attention to posters on Gransnet who make comments just to shock others.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8644713/I-met-boys-Sudan-beach-nearby-Theres-one-word-lips-England.html

I don't see any celebration here, biba70

It was the comments after the article that Biba was referring to. I too am disgusted by people who think the death of a person in such sad and desperate circumstances is a cause for celebration.

Like Australia? And we could have Canvey Island and the Isle of Wight as our very own Nauru and Manus Island? Maybe not.

Surely this latest death just emphasises how vital it is to put a stop to these attempts.

All the hand-wringing in the world on here and elsewhere won’t stop these immigrants attempting to get here illegally and these deaths will continue especially if they keep trying once the weather changes.

Tough action is needed to break the people smuggling gangs until the message gets back to others that if they wish to come here they HAVE to apply through the official means.

One way perhaps would be to state that those attempting illegal means of sneaking in here would have their application automatically rejected.

I have been told

Is it not a good idea to read the report in the newspaper named before making a judgement?
I've just read it and it seems quite factual. However, I have not read the comments underneath.

After all, should Gransnet be judged by some of the recent posts?

I think that the DM reader's comments are "lightly moderated" Callistemon, to put it mildly! I don't think I'd like to see the comments in the DE either for that matter.

An online newspaper can report the facts but is it responsible for the comments of anyone who may read the article?

Rather like GN really.

This was happening daily and shown on our news as desperate Syrians tried to reach Greece.

The war in Syria gets worse but people are so concerned about COVID that other tragedies are being largely ignored.

this thread was never about 'opinions', yours or mine- it was about a boy, very like our own boys. RIP.

I’m out of this thread.

Funny how my point of view was deemed inappropriate yet you pursue yours biba expecting no challenge. One sided much? Agree with me or be quiet.

*“Welcome” puts you so completely into the shoes of a young man facing almost insurmountable obstacles that you feel a profound empathy not only for him but also for all who are ready to risk everything for the dream of a better life. Mr. Ayverdi’s portrayal of a shy innocent driven by blind faith in himself and ferocious stamina finds exactly the right spirit of determination tinged with petulance to make him entirely believable.

Because Bilal finds a reluctant, and unlikely, champion in Simon (Vincent Lindon), a middle-aged swimming instructor at a public pool in Calais, the movie has a lot in common with “The Visitor,” which portrayed a similar relationship. But its story has a more organic feel and deeper emotional resonance. *

well, it might even make you think ...

and realise the difference between the boy and your boy/s - is just where they were born.

Reluctantly, I've just had a look at the DM comments about this and I can see that there is a definite turn towards sympathy and empathy for this boy and the circumstances he found himself in. The crude and distasteful comments do seem to be in the minority.

I can just imagine that film. No thanks.

well just say you are saddened - don't deny the comments made by DM readers - just respect. And watch the film Welcome.