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Where's the P.M.? Shouldn't he be in view, not hiding away ?

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westendgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 12:13:28

Look at the disruptions of recent days;
Exam results and fudged response from Education secretary , passing the buck,stretching the truth about when he really knew about the algorithm,

increase in covid figures
;
Migrants in small boats and Patel's response,

News of contract to work on Ofqual awarded to long term associates of Gove and Cummings without tender.

Not removing whip from MP accused of rape.

So it goes on .Surely a P.M worth his salt should give the nation the impression he is in charge.As usual Johnson is nowhere to be seen.

Gwyneth Thu 20-Aug-20 15:19:51

Westendgirl picking up on one point you make on their thread with regard to MP accused of rape. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? If the alleged victim is not named why should the alleged accuser be named? Until the trial no one knows who is actually telling the truth.

growstuff Thu 20-Aug-20 15:15:55

Who's John McDonald?

Gwyneth Thu 20-Aug-20 15:10:23

I do think Boris deserves a break despite public opinion of him. He was very ill and men are now entitled to paternity leave so why not Boris?

mokryna Thu 20-Aug-20 15:04:49

Watching how Nicola Sturgeon broadcasts clear information on TV.

Grandad1943 Thu 20-Aug-20 15:01:42

vegansrock

How many previous paternity leaves did he take one wonders.
Starmer is criticising the government daily - have a look at Twitter. The Tory controlled media choose not to report it.

Starmer should be in front of the main tv and radio media attacking Johnson. John McDonald was the master of using that media while in the shadow cabinet, but there again where are the present shadow cabinet members if Starmer cannot gain the energy to address that media.

Jabberwok Thu 20-Aug-20 14:58:41

I expect 'he' took what he was entitled to, like everyone else! Why would he not?!!

Greeneyedgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 14:58:23

You are right about Starmer Grandad1943 and he is one of the reasons I left the LP some weeks ago, after being a member for years. Some of my friends have done the same, and we weren’t Momentum members either.

Jabberwok Thu 20-Aug-20 14:57:14

Two invisible men!!! I like Boris too! Sir Kier? I'm sure he's a nice enough chap, but a bit humourless?, dour even? but ok!
My lady in the post office thinks Rishi Sunak is just the ticket! Give it a few more years and the Conservatives have got a winner there!

vegansrock Thu 20-Aug-20 14:54:40

How many previous paternity leaves did he take one wonders.
Starmer is criticising the government daily - have a look at Twitter. The Tory controlled media choose not to report it.

Grandad1943 Thu 20-Aug-20 14:43:17

Well if Boris is once again "gone missing", Kier Starmer has hardly been a storm of activity pointing that out as leader of her majesties opposition.

Hardly the performance of "A Prime Minister In Waiting" many may think even in his own party.

Once again the invisible man.

Jabberwok Thu 20-Aug-20 14:31:39

Teresa May took a summer holiday both in this country and abroad during her premiership without comment despite the chaos of her stance on Brexit which she seemed incapable of making any sense of. Boris is glamping not camping, and yes I expect modern technology is possible in Scotland!

Urmstongran Thu 20-Aug-20 14:26:05

I like Boris.
He’s had Covid and deserves a summer week off like anybody else.
Plus, he didnt take paternity leave as the naysayers predicted he would when they called him lazy.

vegansrock Thu 20-Aug-20 14:17:11

I don’t believe he’s camping for one minute. Yes he should be in charge as PM, but as he just lurches from one lie to the next, piling blame on others, he might as well take a permanent holiday. For all her faults, Theresa May did take her job more seriously and had a sense of duty unlike this puffed up oaf.

Daddima Thu 20-Aug-20 13:57:31

I think there was a mention of camping, but he is allegedly staying at the Fairmont in St. Andrews. I expected him to be at Trump’s place at Turnberry. Still time, as I understand the midges are ferocious this year, especially on the East Coast!

varian Thu 20-Aug-20 13:48:18

Brian Feeney of the Irish News writes-

"Those conned by Boris Johnson now see what a useless prime minister he is"

www.irishnews.com/paywall/tsb/irishnews/irishnews/irishnews//opinion/columnists/2020/06/03/news/brian-feeney-those-conned-by-boris-johnson-now-see-what-a-useless-

I am sorry to disagree with him. If GN is anything to go by there are still many who will never admit that.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Aug-20 13:33:18

There are things called phones, emails and video conferencing, no doubt these have been continuing?

FarNorth Thu 20-Aug-20 13:22:58

Thanks to a comment by a GN poster, I stopped calling him Boris in favour of Johnson.

It's less 'cuddly' and gives the impression of someone who should be acting like a grown-up and doing a good job for the UK.

westendgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 13:21:17

I'm sure Cummings will stay as he's such a bestie with Gove .

Jabberwok, don't you think this country deserves something better than this incompetent bunch ? I also think that if you are working for the public then you should expect to be scrutinised.

trisher Thu 20-Aug-20 13:19:46

What difference does it make where he is? Perhaps the Scots would keep him lock him up in a castle somewhere? But who would that leave? Priti Patel, Sunak, Gove, Hancock or, heaven forbid, Gavin Williamson? You can choose between the incompetent, the ineffective, the two faced and the untrustworthy. The beauty of it is Boris encompasses all of those things!!!

FarNorth Thu 20-Aug-20 13:18:50

Jabberwok the OP is not really about the details of Johnson's holiday arrangements but questioning whether he should, in fact, be doing some governing at a very difficult time for the UK.

My view, tho, is that it's a shambles regardless.

growstuff Thu 20-Aug-20 13:17:31

Johnson is still worth votes!

Greeneyedgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 13:10:53

He makes things worse when he is around, I know it’s hard to imagine it could be ? so better he isn’t.
If he goes, does Cummings stay I wonder ?

Marmight Thu 20-Aug-20 13:10:16

Did he actually say he was camping or was that very important snippet gleaned from a ‘source close to the family’ aka the press?

Jabberwok Thu 20-Aug-20 13:02:25

Oh dear yet another Boris bashing thread!!! IF it's anybody's business, which of course it is not, they are glamping for two nights and spending the rest of their holiday perhaps in a hotel, staying with rellies, who knows?! The comments on here about how Boris spends his summer holiday are more than pathetic and actually no one's 'business '

Barmeyoldbat Thu 20-Aug-20 13:00:45

I thought I would put in a comment but to be honest he is such a waste of space I can't be bothered.