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Where's the P.M.? Shouldn't he be in view, not hiding away ?

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westendgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 12:13:28

Look at the disruptions of recent days;
Exam results and fudged response from Education secretary , passing the buck,stretching the truth about when he really knew about the algorithm,

increase in covid figures
;
Migrants in small boats and Patel's response,

News of contract to work on Ofqual awarded to long term associates of Gove and Cummings without tender.

Not removing whip from MP accused of rape.

So it goes on .Surely a P.M worth his salt should give the nation the impression he is in charge.As usual Johnson is nowhere to be seen.

geekesse Sun 23-Aug-20 13:19:26

I camped with a small baby. If you are an experienced camper and a pretty laid-back parent, it’s not a problem. Toddlers are much worse - they disappear into other people’s tents!

Elegran Sun 23-Aug-20 13:04:47

I did think of commenting on dragging a baby into the wilds and the amount of work involved for a few days away, having tried it myself when mine were young. It doesn't make for a relaxing holiday. However, I decided not to bring wee Wilfred into it.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Aug-20 13:04:32

MayBee70

When you have a PM that is a known liar you tend to question everything they say and do.

You would be idiotic not to question

MayBee70 Sun 23-Aug-20 13:03:23

When you have a PM that is a known liar you tend to question everything they say and do.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Aug-20 12:58:47

Pantglas2

Am I the only person that thinks dragging a baby into this thread is below the belt?

?? do catch up, it is everything to do with photoshopping and the lying. Nothing to do with the child!!

Jabberwok Sun 23-Aug-20 12:55:47

The comments on here are beyond belief!! Has Wilfred got smaller, what about his hair?!! why didn't they sit in the garden, did they sit in the tent in the day, or sleep in it for one night, did security officers sleep in the tent? Did Wilfred sleep in the tent, or did Boris with Carrie leave Wilfred in the house presumably on his own!! Did they use the gate or clamber over chairs, maybe the police used the chairs? All these mind blowing questions are certainly an enormous worry. Wonder who owns the land,the Farmer only rents it! Another conundrum!! Dear God have you people really not got anything better to do than pick over three days of someones private summer holiday stitch by stitch?!! Carrie certainly took some lovely photos but no doubt those will now be closely scrutinised and duly picked to pieces! No I don't think I.Blackford spilt the beans or anyone else on the political front, but obviously some dreary person did!

varian Sun 23-Aug-20 12:51:34

I don't think anyone is blaming Carrie's baby for anything Pantglas

biba70 Sun 23-Aug-20 12:50:05

Photoshop is so clever - but they got it wrong this time ;)

Pantglas2 Sun 23-Aug-20 12:50:01

Am I the only person that thinks dragging a baby into this thread is below the belt?

MayBee70 Sun 23-Aug-20 12:49:57

Either way, it’s diverted attention away from the exam results fiasco so it’s job done really.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Aug-20 12:47:04

lemongrove

Why do you think the baby looks smaller ww?
Two photos taken at different times.

Yes the first one we saw just after Wilfred was born and the other one is billed as having been taken on their recent Scottish very short 3 day break.

So 3 months between photos? Bit weird!

But then what isn’t weird with is PM?

Ellianne Sun 23-Aug-20 12:42:41

OK so I think I have already said this 7 pages back. Any booking made for accommodation for a high profile person is complicated. The security detail go to great lengths to ask the necessary questions and to vet the place. Also when enquiries are made, the renter does not know the identity of the guests. The Scottish farmer would not have been told who was staying until after the event. That is how security works.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Aug-20 12:37:11

Granny23

The cleaner for the cottage has stated that the cottage was only booked for 3 days, so no 'running away' because of harassment, press interest, or midges.

That is very interesting

FarNorth Sun 23-Aug-20 12:28:55

So, an opportunity seized to denigrate Scots for posing a non-existent threat.

Granny23 Sun 23-Aug-20 12:21:28

The cleaner for the cottage has stated that the cottage was only booked for 3 days, so no 'running away' because of harassment, press interest, or midges.

trisher Sun 23-Aug-20 12:12:54

I've just remembered it was Pip, Squeak and Wilfred a wartime cartoon strip. Only question is who is Pip and who is Squeak?

FarNorth Sun 23-Aug-20 12:04:16

Very likely trisher as all that would protect the PM from the public eye.

trisher Sun 23-Aug-20 11:59:58

I was wondering what being on the PM's security team detailed in the job description. Is putting up tents for themselves, or for BJ, Carrie and Wilfred (wasn't that a comedy team?) part of it? Can they also be sent to take the dog for a walk/collect nappies for Wilfred/pick up a take away?

Elegran Sun 23-Aug-20 11:54:45

"How ridiculous for some on here to think the security team actually used it lol " then I wonder what it WAS used for?

When there was a cottage with all amenities hardly any distance away, with probably the same sea view, why would Boris and Carrie use a tent? They have been pictured hiking with Wilfrid so they are quite capable of finding somewhere sheltered for a picnic. If the field was over a fence, they would have to climb on the chairs to get over it - why not sit in the garden, in the shelter of the house wall? Or in the house?

The usual reason for someone to take a tent with them when renting a holiday cottage is because they need extra accommodation. They had security guys with them - where could they sit all day and almost certainly for a night shift (any danger to a prime minister doesn't go away at dusk) They had to be close at hand ready for an emergency. Should they have been even closer than a tent in the next field? How many bedrooms dd the cottage have?

Perhaps there were two shifts, billeted in a hotel/guesthouse/B&B some distance away, with the "on" shift sitting in the tent playing cards at a folding card table, or taking turns to kip on a lilo and looking forward to being offduty and released to the exciting social life of Applecross?

In the absence of facts, we have to fill in with what we know.

I have been to Applecross. It is beautiful, remote, and the houses are scattered.

FarNorth Sun 23-Aug-20 11:48:27

That quote function is a mixed blessing varian.

FarNorth Sun 23-Aug-20 11:46:31

Practicalities - the details of where the security team would sleep, or of where the playcamp & fire would be, whichever it was that the tent was for.
Practicalities - not aggravating local landowners.

Is there any evidence that SNP plonkers, or anyone else, were actually posing any threat?
Or was it just the midges that they ran away from?

varian Sun 23-Aug-20 11:37:48

Just to clarify-

My post 13.56 was a quotation from the Daily Mail-

"Furious farmer reveals Boris Johnson 'climbed over his fence to set up 8ft tent WITHOUT permission and lit a dangerous campfire before fleeing Highlands holiday cottage'... leaving his MINDERS to clean up"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8650799/Boriss-Great-Escape-PM-flees-tent-moves-Old-School-House-remote-peninsula.html

followed by my comment-

"Sorry about the shouty capitals but it comes from the DM"

The next comment-

"The farmer was probably an SNP plonker with an agenda"

did NOT come from me.

lemongrove Sun 23-Aug-20 11:37:00

Or.....one photo with the baby nearer the camera....the other one further away.?

lemongrove Sun 23-Aug-20 11:35:59

Why do you think the baby looks smaller ww?
Two photos taken at different times.

lemongrove Sun 23-Aug-20 11:34:31

The practicalities ( midges) or no shop for about 30 miles?
I expect there was a lot of thought behind it, but taking a holiday in Scotland as a political point no doubt took precedence.
Cornwall or Mustique next year and to hell with politics ( I bet he and Carrie think)?