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Get back to the office! But why?

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Furret Fri 28-Aug-20 14:20:30

I see ‘the government’ is now saying that even people who have been successfully working from home, should go back to the office.

I don’t see the logic in this as a blanket statement. So many advantages both for employer and worker, not to mention the environmental with reduced pollution from cars in busy city centres.

Yes, I know that companies like Pret A Manger are feeling the pinch but as one commuter tweeted ‘horrifying to learn that if I don’t expose myself and everyone I care about to this virus then one of the five Pret A Mangers between the tube station and my office might become unprofitable’.

Jaxjacky Fri 04-Sept-20 09:03:54

JenniferEccles I used to work part home/office/on site. Home working was more efficient for me, no 15 minute chats about TV, sport, social life etc, no moving from office to meeting room, or another building, no hunting for stationary, waiting for the loo, lunch queues, ‘extended’ lunches and so on. Yes, I may have taken a minute or two to put a wash on at home, but I didn’t sit in traffic for 20 minutes in the morning either. I liked working from home, it made sense and I was more flexible, but it wasn’t 100% of my time, whatever made sense to get the job done.

growstuff Fri 04-Sept-20 09:00:57

MaizieD

^We don't have efficient testing and the government seems to have forgotten its promises and obviously thinks the public is too stupid to remember too.^

Some responses incline me to think that the government might be right in its assumption. ?

Ahem! I didn't want to be insulting. hmm

MaizieD Fri 04-Sept-20 08:56:56

We don't have efficient testing and the government seems to have forgotten its promises and obviously thinks the public is too stupid to remember too.

Some responses incline me to think that the government might be right in its assumption. ?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 04-Sept-20 07:55:09

Mollygo

It’s totally unacceptable for people to be given tests so far away but I’m still waiting for the media to broadcast interviews with the hundreds of people who have had easier access.
Oh - but that wouldn’t make good news and would take far too much time.
It seems as if we only want to celebrate failure-and that isn’t good for the mental health of the country.

I celebrate efficiency and thoroughness.

The test and trace system has been neither.

I will not under any circumstances say something is working well when it clearly isn’t.

Hancock has admitted problems right from the start. Every now and again he witters on about a world class system, but when challenged admits it isn’t.

All we want is the truth.

Not much to ask is it? But obviously truth and the government have never been partners.

growstuff Fri 04-Sept-20 07:46:25

It's not good news for the mental health of the country if the government isn't honest either. I really object to problems like this being glossed over and being told that we have a "world class" system and everything's just fine, when it clearly isn't. We're not toddlers being told that an injection won't hurt!

It's good that so many people are having the test without problems, but what about those who have experienced/are experiencing problems? If you're one of the minority who can't get a test for whatever reason, it's no consolation to know that most people can.

We've been told time and time again that successful return to school for all pupils needed to go hand-in-hand with efficient testing. The same is true if most people are to return to travelling by crowded public transport and working in offices. We don't have efficient testing and the government seems to have forgotten its promises and obviously thinks the public is too stupid to remember too.

It needs sorting. The government has had months to get it right and has had other countries it could have copied. It's run out of excuses. The country needs a coherent, transparent strategy which people understand.

suziewoozie Fri 04-Sept-20 07:37:33

Of course the story is about the problems people are having accessing tests - we’re trying as a country to reduce infections. What an absolutely pathetic response by some posters. It is a serious problem - even the Head of T and T has apologised.

Mollygo Fri 04-Sept-20 07:25:07

It’s totally unacceptable for people to be given tests so far away but I’m still waiting for the media to broadcast interviews with the hundreds of people who have had easier access.
Oh - but that wouldn’t make good news and would take far too much time.
It seems as if we only want to celebrate failure-and that isn’t good for the mental health of the country.

growstuff Thu 03-Sept-20 21:02:54

Whitewavemark2

It doesn’t bode well for the winter does it?

Talk about a perfect storm.

Covid
Economic depression
Unemployment
The Brexit economic effect. Shortages etc.

We will be lucky to be still afloat come February!

Don't panic! It won't wipe out the whole of the human race - just the weak ones. Who needs them anyway?

angry

growstuff Thu 03-Sept-20 21:00:30

Great for your friend! So the people who can't access tests don't matter? According to Serco's own data, people are having to wait longer for the results and over 5% of people last week didn't receive any result at all. But - hey - let's celebrate the successes and forget about the losers!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 03-Sept-20 20:10:51

AC rang 119 at 7.15 am and could have had a drive through appointment 40 miles away for GC, the person on the phone was concerned that the test was for a child told AC to ring back at 9am when new slots were available. Brilliant service new drive through appointment 8 miles away, results within 16 hours.

Friend had home testing kit within 24 hours, results within 4 days.

Yes there are some mistakes in the system but there are lots more tests and results working well........as per normal it’s only bad news that travels?

MissAdventure Thu 03-Sept-20 19:38:26

I read somewhere that the virus is now more prevalent in working age people.
Can't be more specific, or post a link, but it doesn't bode well, you're right.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Sept-20 19:26:17

It doesn’t bode well for the winter does it?

Talk about a perfect storm.

Covid
Economic depression
Unemployment
The Brexit economic effect. Shortages etc.

We will be lucky to be still afloat come February!

growstuff Thu 03-Sept-20 19:17:10

Ellianne

^And if you don't drive?^
I assume you're not allowed on the train if you've got symptoms, even with a mask?

I'd demand a home testing kit.

They keep running out of home testing kits. Not only that but you have to have an identity check, which is done by an American credit card company. Apparently they don't keep your data (yea, right), but I've been reading about people the company can't check and have been rejected. What a farce!

Ellianne Thu 03-Sept-20 19:09:21

And if you don't drive?
I assume you're not allowed on the train if you've got symptoms, even with a mask?

I'd demand a home testing kit.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Sept-20 19:02:26

growstuff

Whitewavemark2

I see Johnson is denying that he started a campaign back to work last week.

Why?

I suspect he has been told that there will be another Covid wave, and they haven’t got test and trace up to speed.

I suspect he was told that hardly anybody was listening to him.

???

growstuff Thu 03-Sept-20 19:00:43

Whitewavemark2

I see Johnson is denying that he started a campaign back to work last week.

Why?

I suspect he has been told that there will be another Covid wave, and they haven’t got test and trace up to speed.

I suspect he was told that hardly anybody was listening to him.

growstuff Thu 03-Sept-20 18:59:25

And if you don't drive?

varian Thu 03-Sept-20 18:56:27

No excuse but the algorithm has now been changed so no-one need drive more than 75 miles to get a test.

75 miles with a sick child????

FarNorth Thu 03-Sept-20 18:46:56

making pathetic excuse for asking someone in London who had a child with symptoms to go to Inverness for a covid test,

shock
What was the excuse?

varian Thu 03-Sept-20 18:23:59

Just heard test and trace supremo Dido Harding on Radio 4 making pathetic excuse for asking someone in London who had a child with symptoms to go to Inverness for a covid test,

This is a woman who as a Jockey Club Board member persuaded the government to let the Cheltenham Festival go ahead at a time when covid was spreading exponentially in the UK.

Apparently she is married to a Tory MP and is a friend of David Cameron.

When she worked at Talk Talk she was responsible for a scandalous breach of data privacy laws.

Why is it that at a time when we need capable people all we get are Vote Leave fanatics and their cronies?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Sept-20 18:06:07

I see Johnson is denying that he started a campaign back to work last week.

Why?

I suspect he has been told that there will be another Covid wave, and they haven’t got test and trace up to speed.

varian Thu 03-Sept-20 15:14:54

"We want every workplace conducting a risk assessment and consulting with unions...and we want those risk assessments published for workers to see."

The TUC general secretary Frances O'Grady says it's 'not helpful to issue edicts to workers'.

twitter.com/i/status/1300693909006319616

Grandad1943 Thu 03-Sept-20 08:50:07

Furretc Quote [It reminds me of some males of my acquaintance who love the sound of their own voices, bless them. Always love the old Dodgers] End Quote.

Well, you certainly can always tell on this forum when someone has lost an argument as they always resort to generalisations and personal comments. ??

Anyway I am off to carry out my days work and I shall travel there using my car this morning being that it is raining hard here in North Somerset. ?

Galaxy Thu 03-Sept-20 08:34:07

Pupil premium was one of the best ideas for levelling disadvantage that we have seen in years.

Furret Thu 03-Sept-20 08:14:56

Grandad1943

Furret

Why do many words to say simply that in your opinion employers are trying to comply with government guidelines.

Of course many are, but not all.

Try to be more succinct. Long posts are often glossed over or unread. And perhaps rather that take over a thread to present your point of view about H&S and the workplace you could start a thread of your own?

I will post on whatever thread I see fit to post my opinions on and in as many words as I choose to use Furret.

There are no site regulations that state that anyone has to read those posts and word, so, should any forum member not like what I post it the manner I post in, they do not have to read it.

Simple as that. ?

Yes, you do. It reminds me of some males of my acquaintance who love the sound of their own voices, bless them. Always love the old codgers ?