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Scottish government Covid briefings on the BBC

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Alegrias Fri 11-Sept-20 13:14:37

A thread on another topic kept straying into people's opinions about the Scottish Government's Covid briefings being dropped from the BBC schedules. It seemed to raise a lot of comment so I thought I'd start a new thread.

So, what does everyone think? Feel free to diverge into what you think of NS's performance smile Do you think the WM government should have more briefings?

Alegrias Sat 12-Sept-20 13:31:52

SueDonim I'm going to drop the discussion about NS/SNP etc, I'm going to learn from the good advice of Jane10 and Marydoll who say that there are things we will not agree on.

But the sheeple term is unforgiveable. Its insulting and intended to imply that the person you are addressing is not capable of understanding, is foolish and easily led. It compares people to sheep because they don't agree with what you say. If you weren't aware of the connotations of this insult, maybe think about it now and don't use it again? Just because others use it doesn't make it acceptable.

SueDonim Sat 12-Sept-20 13:24:22

Oh Alegias the term sheeple has been used a number of times on GN to describe those who don’t agree with the Nationalist agenda. I’m simply using their term in reverse.

I’m still baffled as to why people think NS has done a good job when she hasn’t, rather like her government’s dismal record in health, education and the economy.

No wonder Shetland is considering independence for themselves.

Alegrias Sat 12-Sept-20 13:11:08

suziewoozie

‘The SG could prepare a press release for newsreader to present. Easily done.‘

How delightfully North Korean/Russian/Belarusian/English

gringrin

Marydoll Sat 12-Sept-20 13:10:27

Of course we won't Jane, but will hopefully respect each other's views.

The most important issue for me presently, is that eventually we will beat this virus.
It will be a very long journey and I hope I get to the end unscathed.

Jane10 Sat 12-Sept-20 13:04:53

Marydoll fed up as I am with SNP's mismanagement of so many important issues here in Scotland, my objection to her unnecessary constant appearances on TV is that it seems impossible for people to understand that there are other, less partisan ways for relevant information to be shared.
We will not agree on this.

suziewoozie Sat 12-Sept-20 13:04:41

‘The SG could prepare a press release for newsreader to present. Easily done.‘

How delightfully North Korean/Russian/Belarusian/English

Alegrias Sat 12-Sept-20 12:36:19

Jason's on Radio Scotland's football show right now. He's very good.

Marydoll Sat 12-Sept-20 12:20:25

I like to listen to Jason Leitch and his no nonsense approach. Quite difficult to convey that in a press report. ?

Jane is this more about your obvious dislike of Saint Nicola , rather than the actual briefings? You don't actually have to listen to her.

Anyway, I have signed the petition to reverse the BBC's decision.
At least 35,000 people have signed the petition so far. So not everyone thinks the briefings should be axed.

varian Sat 12-Sept-20 12:18:24

I do not support the SNP but I have to say that I was impressed with Nicola Sturgeon's daily reports. She seemed calm and measured, was prepared to admit that she did not know something, or they had not done well enough, even apologise. What a contrast with Johnson's pathetic performances.

I have heard that there have been many problems in Scotland, in relation to the pandemic and other things but Nicola Sturgeon is very good at presentation.

I suspect that the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation eventually obeyed government instructions to show us less of Nicola Sturgeon because she made Boris Johnson look bad by comparison.

Alegrias Sat 12-Sept-20 12:01:20

Oh yes, because that's how it works.
Daft of us all not to have thought of it.

Jane10 Sat 12-Sept-20 11:52:26

The SG could prepare a press release for newsreader to present. Easily done.

Alegrias Sat 12-Sept-20 11:34:28

Och Jane10 you're missing the point.

However good a news organisation is, they take editorial decisions about what they will present and how they will present it. Its a bit silly to say that they just read out the news!

A couple of years ago I complained to the BBC about Nick Robinson telling what I knew to be a lie on the news. Not a misunderstanding, not a misinterpretation, a lie. They did nothing about it. A few years later I watched an interview with him him saying that yes, he knew it wasn't "100% true" but it fitted his story.

Jane10 Sat 12-Sept-20 11:22:52

Fiona Bruce is also always presented. She could present any necessary updates just as well as Nicola.
Plenty for Nicola to be getting on with.

Granny23 Sat 12-Sept-20 11:03:14

Surely in a time of National Crisis - the Pandemic - the First Minister's most important role is to be the voice of her Government and keep us all up to date with changes? Would you rather that announcements were made anonymously at 10 o'clock at night with no time for questions or comment?

If you must take the discussion down to the level of her dress style. would you rather our FM appeared looking as if she had just fallen out of bed and was hung over from the night before? (like some I could mention). I could also mention that according to polls Nicola's personal rating is + 50 whereas Boris has a rating of -50.

Finally when our FM is attracting praise from journalists and commentators worldwide is your response always to say "AH but....... and then detail some smaller problem which is yet to be solved or has already been dealt with? Have you no pride in the Country that is your home or its citizens?

Alegrias Sat 12-Sept-20 10:41:02

Thank you Granny23, I wasn't aware of that. It certainly explains some of the editorial decisions they make.

Although it says "social cohesion" of the UK, which isn't quite the same as the cohesion of the UK as an entity. I also noticed that the same paragraph says "raise awareness of the different cultures and alternative viewpoints that
make up its society."

Callistemon Sat 12-Sept-20 10:27:50

There's plenty of real work for Nicola to be getting on with in her day job.
Jane10
It must take some considerable time to prepare for these daily briefings, which, as you say, could just as easily be done by someone else.
It must take ages to look so perfect. She's certainly no 'Slack Alice'!

Granny23 Sat 12-Sept-20 09:50:19

The relevant section of the BBC's Charter - Para 6.4 states:

*The BBC should bring people together for shared experiences and help contribute to the social
cohesion and wellbeing of the United Kingdom*

Whilst the BBC must adhere to regulations which govern the allocation of air time to political parties e.g. during a General Election, the same regulation is not applied when there is a binary question as in a referendum. As there charter binds them (as above) to promote the 'Cohesion and wellbeing of the UK, their bias must be in favour of what keeps the UK together and against anything which might lead to the breakup of the Union.

Alegrias Sat 12-Sept-20 09:28:25

Oops, cross-post with Firecracker123 ! Its not nonsense, MaizieD.

Alegrias Sat 12-Sept-20 09:26:49

Elizabeth1 I looked at not paying my licence before, but it was so convoluted that I decided to stick with it. You do need it for any broadcast TV, even online. But you can get away with it if you only use Netflix for instance confused

It does fund the BBC though MaizieD, none of it goes elsewhere. The Licence Fee provides 76% of their funding, the rest comes from their commercial activity.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-51376255

MaizieD Sat 12-Sept-20 09:24:46

So they would like you to believe, Firecracker. It's nonsense.

Firecracker123 Sat 12-Sept-20 09:17:07

The TV licence fee is collected by the BBC and primarily used to fund the radio, television and online services of the BBC itself. Licence fee collection is the responsibility of the BBC's Finance and Business division.
en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › Televisi...
Television licensing in the United Kingdom -

MaizieD Sat 12-Sept-20 08:30:25

The TV licence isn't a 'BBC' licence, it's a licence to receive live television broadcasts on any receiving equipment (eg, includes live streaming on a computer). That actually means broadcasts from any television provider. Nor does it finance the BBC , it might have done in the 1930s but it's a complete fiction now.

So not paying it is a meaningless gesture. You're unlikely to be caught and prosecuted for non payment, though.

lemongrove Sat 12-Sept-20 08:23:18

No Lucca and hasn’t been any ( daily briefings from WM) for some time.
It isn’t necessary.Just now and again there is one (if things change.)

Elizabeth1 Sat 12-Sept-20 08:07:23

My DH has convinced me we’re going to cease to pay our BBC licence due to recent events. Our neighbour hasn’t pd one for years and manages tv programming within the law must find out what she does are there any others out there who don’t pay for a licence it’ll be interesting to hear your views. confused

Lucca Sat 12-Sept-20 08:04:18

I don’t wAtch regular briefings now. Is there still a daily one from the Westminster govt?